Question on ZM 85mm lens

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I've started seeing the lens being sold now. I remembered Zeiss issuing a statement about the quality and the need to address it for long-term usage. I have a couple of quick questions:

1) Are the later batches of lenses available now? Don't want to get a lens that has the old design (and face reliability problems down the road)

2) What frameline does it bring up for the M8?

3) Anyone has some samples with the M8?

Thanks in advance,

Stephen
 
None of the older lenses was ever released, so don't worry about that one.

The lens is still VERY hard to get. Zeiss keeps promising me one, then finding they can't let me have it for another few weeks.

Frame is 90 (I've had on on my M8 at Oberkochen).

The 90 frame on my MP is identical to the 85 frame on a ZI...

Cheers,

Roger
 
A mint (as new) 90 Apo Summicron, the gold standard among the 90mm , can be bought for less. In Sean Reid's 90 lens test the ZM's performance was disappointing. But even if it was close to the 90 apo cron, the Leica would be my preferred choice, since it will keep its value better.

I think Zeiss should have positioned the 85 in the USD 1000 - 1500 range.

:(
 
retow said:
A mint (as new) 90 Apo Summicron, the gold standard among the 90mm , can be bought for less. In Sean Reid's 90 lens test the ZM's performance was disappointing. But even if it was close to the 90 apo cron, the Leica would be my preferred choice, since it will keep its value better.

I think Zeiss should have positioned the 85 in the USD 1000 - 1500 range.

:(

I have both the 75AA and the 90AA. I was hoping the ZM85mm would be different, not worse. I was hoping to see more reviews as Zeiss is really up there with the rest in the 21mm, 25mm and the 85mm space. Could the sample be a bad one (*thinking aloud*)?
 
Why not wait a few months as I am and see what shakes out about quality and price. I have the AA90 and don't think it's very good at close range where I work most of the time. My v1 elmarit outperforms the 90AA closer then 8 feet so I wouldn't call it a gold standard.
 
In my documentary work speed has become very important. I find myself shooting 1600 ISO B&W at 1/30 and even 1/15 at 1.2 to 2 and with the summilux 75 often at 1.4 to f2 and 1/60. F4 is out of the question.

The 90AA is superb past 10 feet but closer than 8 it's not very goof at any aperture. The 75 summilux is much better close up.
 
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