Advice for a prospective m6ttl buyer

If my M6 and M4 and M2 and all the others are anything to go by you ought to be happy.

I wonder about M6 repairs; not so long ago everyone was tearing out their hair, wailing and gnashing their teeth because of a dreaded error code on the Leica minilux. Regardless of what they said in the sales brochure the things failed and couldn't be repaired. Resale prices fell through the floor.

And then one day someone said that they had taken one to bits and seen the fault and repaired it and so could offer a repair service. And a little later I noticed a few people offering the part that failed for sale here and there. So I wonder if the M6 problem may go that way; after all's said and done, there are a lot of skilled people in this world and they have time on their hands at the moment. So who knows?

FWIW, I have had a new cell made for a 1930's Leicameter some years ago and there's a lot of factories in China turning out little solar powered gizmos. So the future could be brighter than we think...

Anyway, enjoy looking for and finding and using the M6ttl; just don't forget you are standing at the top of a very long and slippery slope. Try to resist getting the body and lens with matching or near serial numbers...


Regards, David


slippery slope is right. although nah, I have always been pretty good at not sucumbing to gas (he says, with his finger on the trigger to buy an m6)....
 
I recently sold a chrome TTL that had the beginnings of 'zincpest' ie very slight bubbling on the top plate.

This is purely a cosmetic issue that had little effect on sale price in my case but it could well be a good bargaining tool for others.

It can be hard to spot. I would be very wary of buying a chrome TTL online.


that is good advice. Thanks.
 
Good luck finding one! I had a peek on eBay and found that there are few M6TTL's 0.58 for sale and the ones on offer have become very expensive.

Yep - I have a few leads. Prices out there are crazy. I have clearly missed the boat. But alas, that is how it goes sometimes. In order to fund this endeavor, I'll be selling other stuff for more than what I paid. Prices are up everywhere, really.


it's a brave new world
 
If my M6 and M4 and M2 and all the others are anything to go by you ought to be happy.

I wonder about M6 repairs; not so long ago everyone was tearing out their hair, wailing and gnashing their teeth because of a dreaded error code on the Leica minilux. Regardless of what they said in the sales brochure the things failed and couldn't be repaired. Resale prices fell through the floor.

And then one day someone said that they had taken one to bits and seen the fault and repaired it and so could offer a repair service. And a little later I noticed a few people offering the part that failed for sale here and there. So I wonder if the M6 problem may go that way; after all's said and done, there are a lot of skilled people in this world and they have time on their hands at the moment. So who knows?

FWIW, I have had a new cell made for a 1930's Leicameter some years ago and there's a lot of factories in China turning out little solar powered gizmos. So the future could be brighter than we think...

Anyway, enjoy looking for and finding and using the M6ttl; just don't forget you are standing at the top of a very long and slippery slope. Try to resist getting the body and lens with matching or near serial numbers...


Regards, David
More likely with the Classic if the TTL has an I/C. Try reverse engineering that lad!
 
The light seals are one of the most common repairs on the M6 TTL. When Leica introduced the MP the older felt seals were upgraded to a synthetic material with more flexibility and a longer life.
 
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It's just intuitive! The little red dot on the right shines? Turn the selector to the right until BOTH dots are on and that's your perfect exposure.


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Both dots?

On my M6 TTL there are the arrow indicators and a single dot in the center between them. I don't know of any M6 TTL that's different.

Anyway, here is a link to the best M6 TTL web page I've ever seen, it has so much good information and details:

https://emulsive.org/reviews/camera...reviews/an-in-depth-guide-to-the-leica-m6-ttl
 
For what it's worth, I bought my M6 TTL new in 2000. It has never given me any problems. I'm an amateur photographer and my demands of the camera are such that I expect it will likely last me the rest of my lifetime.

While the article is incredibly tongue-in-cheek and bound to upset some, The Leica M6 TTL .85 is the Best 35mm Film Camera Ever Conceived did contain the following tidbit with regards to the whether or not the light meter in the M6 TTL was prone to failure. (The author queried the well known Leica repair specialist Don Goldberg for his opinion on this subject.) From the article:

First of all, he clarified that there are two circuit boards associated with the light meter in the M6 TTL so it’s pure silliness when people say “the board” is prone to failure. And he went on to say:

"I’ve had 2 Leica M6-TTL cameras in so far that needed new main circuit boards. That’s out of 489 M6-TTL cameras that I’ve had in for repair.” This was as of July 2019. And those two board replacements? “One of the circuit boards that was bad was due to someone removing the body shell without first removing parts that got in the way of the main board & damaged the board. The other one I think was defective & had to go to Leica, USA. All in all the M6-TTL is very reliable. I think the reason I’ve had 489 M6-TTL cameras in my shop is that they sold lots of them, people want complete overhauls eventually."
 
For what it's worth, I bought my M6 TTL new in 2000. It has never given me any problems. I'm an amateur photographer and my demands of the camera are such that I expect it will likely last me the rest of my lifetime.

While the article is incredibly tongue-in-cheek and bound to upset some, The Leica M6 TTL .85 is the Best 35mm Film Camera Ever Conceived did contain the following tidbit with regards to the whether or not the light meter in the M6 TTL was prone to failure. (The author queried the well known Leica repair specialist Don Goldberg for his opinion on this subject.) From the article:

First of all, he clarified that there are two circuit boards associated with the light meter in the M6 TTL so it’s pure silliness when people say “the board” is prone to failure. And he went on to say:

"I’ve had 2 Leica M6-TTL cameras in so far that needed new main circuit boards. That’s out of 489 M6-TTL cameras that I’ve had in for repair.” This was as of July 2019. And those two board replacements? “One of the circuit boards that was bad was due to someone removing the body shell without first removing parts that got in the way of the main board & damaged the board. The other one I think was defective & had to go to Leica, USA. All in all the M6-TTL is very reliable. I think the reason I’ve had 489 M6-TTL cameras in my shop is that they sold lots of them, people want complete overhauls eventually."

I saw that article, too and it gave me some hope. even before accessing the brain trust here on RFF, I had a feeling that the problem of m6ttl main circuit board was a very infrequent occurrence.

It's just that part of the 'dream' of the M mount is that it becomes inherited. It lives beyond me and can be used by my children as I teach them the craft. It is for this reason that I would 'prefer' the camera be something whose parts could be replaced.

I still think about a Classic for this reason. But the .58 finder is really a big selling point. That wider window is such a delight to use.

There is a photog near me who was initially selling a .72 that I went to look at recently. He happened to have another 2 ttl's (3 in total) and one of them was a .58. It was cool to look through both and really understand the difference. That is what has kind of hooked it for me. That and the shutter dial. In a former life, I owned an m4-p and it was fun. But I didn't love the shutter dial. Kind of cumbersome to change quickly.

There are a couple of folks here who have reached out. Also - the photog near me advised I could make him an offer on the .58.

So we'll see. Ultimately, if the meter dies, I think I will probably wish that I had a classic. But I'll just buy that Voigt meter and enjoy the .58 finder.

First world problems...;-)
 
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