Leica M6 out of sight

What worries me about the increased demand is how it might affect wait times with the repair folks I trust.

I’d rather folks keep chasing digital excellence and stuff. Yay super cameras!
 
Huss said:
Ok, so pretty much what you are saying is that the only film cameras that matter are Leicas, because you don't like the others. So they don't count.
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What I'm pretty much saying is that I wasn't referring to larger format cameras and they all matter, especially my two favorites,Nikon FM2-T and FM3a. Pinhole camera? Plastic Lomo? I'll pass. Lomo had a store in NYC for several years and I looked at their cameras. Seemed more toy-like for film students. And I don't understand the appeal of pinhole photography. To each his/her own. The beauty of choice.

Enjoy your Lomo.
 
MikeL said:
What worries me about the increased demand is how it might affect wait times with the repair folks I trust.

I’d rather folks keep chasing digital excellence and stuff. Yay super cameras!
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If you pay thousands for a used camera and then send it off for repairs; I'm not sure if I would call that super. :angel:
 
PunkFunkDunk said:
Finally, someone asks the important question (which indeed indicates the pop cultural out of touchness of some posters). Lambasting hipsters in 2020 is akin to dumping on hippies in 1980. The moment passed a while ago (likely with the last album from The Strokes).
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P,

I don't know about hippies dying out. I'm still around. The music, the culture, and the time endures...

Some lifestyles, attitudes, and ideas that define a generation hang around. Did my ponytail ever go out of style? Is a Mohawk really new? What about shaved heads?

Why is the term "hipster" derogitory?

Perhaps just because some people like to think of themselves as individuals and more than just a category. I find no insult if I'm called an old hippie or a baby boomer. Is it as immature as name calling or teasing in grade school?

What's wrong with defining an archtype in an era if a category fits?

What about the repetition that reoccurs (is anything really new?) and why all the cultural regard that is youth centric.

I'm near retirement, my gal is a fashion blogger, and I will tell you it seems that my demographics make "us" more and more invisible and disregarded as we age.

We get treated as if we are dead. Kinda funny how in a thread here on RFF a hipster posted about being hopeful when the boomers die off.

I wrote a pretty funny response.

Cal
 
Calzone said:
Why is the term "hipster" derogitory?

Cal
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"Hippies", though themselves derided at one time, were a contextual reaction to the times they materialized, whether one agreed with it or not.

Modern-day Hipsters? How do they define themselves as anything more than wannabes, emulating predecessors but without a particular cogent reason. Seems more of a fashion statement and an aversion to soap products.
 
james.liam said:
"Hippies", though themselves derided at one time, were a contextual reaction to the times they materialized, whether one agreed with it or not.
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James,

Is this not also true for the term "Hipster?"

Pretty much has the appropriate amount of time/usage passed that the term has lost its sharpness, and is now a blunt object that causes no pain nor harm?

Cal
 
james.liam said:
"Hippies", though themselves derided at one time, were a contextual reaction to the times they materialized, whether one agreed with it or not.
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I am a person of a certain age, and I was a “hippie”. Full on, and have the pictures to prove it. Not posting those. Burned my draft card, marched, the whole stupid, self absorbed, puerile bit.
It wasn’t an intelligent “contextual reaction” “to the times”. It was total BS. born out of understanding nothing about anything, combined with an unmerited confidence in the rightness of one’s beliefs that only youthful arrogance can prize.
Though I find the whole hipster thing more puzzling than troubling, it’s small beer in comparison.
Die hippies, die!
Die Boomer! I get that too, though the replacements are not as impressive as they fancy themselves.

Whatevs. An M6 costs what it costs, as ever.
 
Larry Cloetta said:
I am a person of a certain age, and I was a “hippie”. Full on, and have the pictures to prove it. Not posting those. Burned my draft card, marched, the whole stupid, self absorbed, puerile bit.
It wasn’t an intelligent “contextual reaction” “to the times”. It was total BS. born out of understanding nothing about anything, combined with an unmerited confidence in the rightness of one’s beliefs that only youthful arrogance can prize.
Though I find the whole hipster thing more puzzling than troubling, it’s small beer in comparison.
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While I concur on your assessment re: "hippies" ("the whole stupid, self absorbed, puerile bit"), it did have a context within the events of the time. They were reacting, albeit in a shallow, self-defeating fashion, to "something". I am likewise puzzled as to the hipster phenomenon and what it is they are turning against or stand for. Seem to have little plan except living in the moment. It is, as you say, "small beer by comparison".

As for the M6, markets ebb and flow. Bought mine in ~2013 because I wanted to get back into film, I always dreamed of a Leica, the M6 Classic appeared to me the perfect blend of mechanical camera with a simple ,built-in meter and the 0.85 VF magnification as the best for its intended use.

Seems like others have come to the same belated conclusion.
 
Larry Cloetta said:
It wasn’t an intelligent “contextual reaction” “to the times”. It was total BS. born out of understanding nothing about anything, combined with an unmerited confidence in the rightness of one’s beliefs that only youthful arrogance can prize.
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Larry,

I do appreciate what you say. I have that youthful arrogance perhaps still.

But what some people might not understand is how I grew up surrounded with the possibility of getting killed, maimed, or somehow otherwise destroyed. It was the Vietnam era, and I looked like the enemy. I didn't need to get drafted or go to Vietnam to get killed. It could have easily happened here at home in the U.S.

Pretty much the oil crisis and the recession it caused also undermined me from having much of a footing upon graduating high school in 1976.

Pretty much I grew up thinking that the future was pretty fraught and that I would die young, but somehow like you I became an old man.

These historical events that formed our generation were real. We had no choice but be swept into them.

Cal
 
Some things never change. Hippies, Yuppies, Hipsters, so on and so forth all strike me as the same in that people naturally seem to seek out their tribe whether they realize it or not. It is obvious that there is similar behavior at play (on a much smaller scale) here on this forum. Ironically, it would seem that whoever happens to be buying these cameras has at least one thing in common with everyone else here regardless of which other groups they might be lumped in with. In the end, as Larry has keenly noted, an M6 costs what it costs.
 
Calzone said:
Larry,

I do appreciate what you say. I have that youthful arrogance perhaps still.

But what some people might not understand is how I grew up surrounded with the possibility of getting killed, maimed, or somehow otherwise destroyed. It was the Vietnam era, and I looked like the enemy. I didn't need to get drafted or go to Vietnam to get killed. It could have easily happened here at home in the U.S.

Pretty much the oil crisis and the recession it caused also undermined me from having much of a footing upon graduating high school in 1976.

Pretty much I grew up thinking that the future was pretty fraught and that I would die young, but somehow like you I became an old man.

These historical events that formed our generation were real. We had no choice but be swept into them.

Cal
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Cal,

I appreciate your comments, though I think we always have a choice, no matter how young we are. What we don’t always have is the accumulated store of knowledge required to render good judgments.
Thanks for responding.
 
Larry Cloetta said:
Cal,

I appreciate your comments, though I think we always have a choice, no matter how young we are. What we don’t always have is the accumulated store of knowledge required to render good judgments.
Thanks for responding.
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Larry,

A good book on being young and having choices is Tim O'Brien's novel "The Things They Carried." It is presented as fiction, but you have to know it is really non-fiction.

In this book the author is caught in the dilemma of becoming a man without a country when one day he drives to the Canadian border to avoid being drafted into Vietnam. The rest of the chapters is of experiences in Vietnam.

As a 62 year old man I have little remorse over my lifelong choices.

I only have three regrets: One is I wished I never smoked cigarettes (15 years I was a smoker); two I wish I used sunscreen to protect my skin; and three I wish I had protected my hearing better.

BTW I never thought I would live this long. I had a crazy life, embraced mucho risk, and embrace a lot of destructive behaviors... Perhaps I am more alive than many.

Cal
 
I just picked up an M6 Titanium that was recently CLA’d by DAG for 2K and I consider that a good deal. They only seem to be increasing as of late.
 
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