Limited 35mm budget: Zeiss vs Leica

Limited 35mm budget: Zeiss vs Leica

  • Brand new Zeiss Biogon 35mm f2

    Votes: 254 48.6%
  • Used Leica 35mm summicron pre-asph v3

    Votes: 67 12.8%
  • Used Leica 35mm summicron pre-asph v4

    Votes: 149 28.5%
  • Like new Leica 35mm summarit f2.5

    Votes: 53 10.1%

  • Total voters
    523
Well, many things were so much better eight years ago.

For one thing, I was eight years younger...

I see the G 35mm f/2 Planar is being discussed. This lens has been much maligned by many, but I must be one of the lucky ones - mine produces images equally good (tested and proven by me under my Leitz Focomat enlarger) as the 45mm Planar.

The 45mm Planar G is a fine lens. I reckon all those Summicron owners who've paid heaps more for their Leitz 'cron and then badmouth the 45mm G, are just jealous.

One should be thankful for these small Zeiss blessings.


Ozmoose, IMO there was never a question about the Zeiss G lenses. For me the deal breaker was the G bodies... auto focus and a deadly long shutter lag. I'd snap them up in an instant if they were in M mounts.
 
Of course this debate has been going on forever. Was going on when my Dad bought his Contax lla in 1955 and before that too.

My previous eye doctor used Leitz equipment. I said to myself, cool, but I doubt many patients took notice of the red dots.

We changed eye doctors a year back, the new one uses all Zeiss equipment! I said to myself, cool, but I doubt many patients took notice of the blue Zeiss logos.

I told her I use Zeiss camera lenses and I'm a Zeiss fan. I couldn't help myself and asked her how she ended up choosing Zeiss. Lots of good companies out there like Nikon and Leitz.

She said, well they make good stuff and they gave me a good deal at this trade show I was at.

She was completely oblivious to the issues we get religious over.

The Opthamologist that my son visits has Topcon equipment. It does not look Sixties vintage though. 😉
 
Ozmoose, IMO there was never a question about the Zeiss G lenses. For me the deal breaker was the G bodies... auto focus and a deadly long shutter lag. I'd snap them up in an instant if they were in M mounts.

Noted and agree. Just for the fun of it, I took my G1 with the 45mm out this morning for a stroll, and took several shots. It must be age (the shooter's, not so much the camera's), but I didn't notice any particularly long time-lag between pressing the button and the actual exposure. I tried to recall how my M2 and M3 (both owned and sadly sold in the 1980s, but still missed) did this same process, but cannot recall as it was too long ago. At any rate, I tend to shoot mostly static subjects (buildings), so any time lag between the two acts would mean little or nothing to me.

A point I had originally intended to make but forgot (another senior's moment at play, ha!) was that of electronic cameras and the age factor. G1s date to the mid-1990s and the 'innards' are aged now, many are unreliable. G1s were plagued by LED 'bleed' (my four have escaped this) and the one I purchased new way back when occasionally refuses to rewind the film, which means I have to carry a black change bag in my kit. Not a big problem for me, but one worth noting.

As well, my most reliable (he is older than I am) camera repair person in Melbourne has warned me that while he is able to CLA the Gs, spare parts are no longer available and what he cannot cannibalize from two spare G bodies he has in his workshop will never be fixed.

I believe the same warning applies to Leica digitals. I've had two friends who bought M8s only to have them 'pass away' with less than 25,000 clicks ('actuations' isn't a word I particularly like).

So the summing up would have to be, whichever camera or lenses you buy, the defining factor would definitely be that of Caveat Emptor. Nothing is eternal. Camera/lens electronics, even less so...

Of the lenses, Leitz or Zeiss, to me there is no question that they are absolutely the best in optics. Which is what I aimed for when I made my investment in the G1/Zeiss lenses, and earlier on into Leica Ms.

Enough said of Contax Gs. I'm greatly enjoying all the posts in this thread and look forward to many more. Eight pages so far, 140+ posts, and some superb photos. Good one!!
 
Oz, at the time the Gs came out I was doing a lot of heli-ski photography & i had a chance to test the cameras out. There was no comparison,( much as i wanted them to work) between the Gs and the M2,M4,M6 I was using....(and continue to use) as far as lag time
 
Perhaps just a matter of user perception, or imperception! I've had an M2 since 1967, and then in 2005 I bought a used G1 (which I returned) and two G2 cameras. I don't recall sensing any shutter lag on the Contaxes. What lag there may have been was not bothersome, anyway! I don't now recall how I had things set, but more recently I've preferred manually-activated rear-button autofocus, which logically would eliminate any AF-related shutter lag.

My original motivation for the purchase was to use the great G 21mm lens, and indeed it has been a real pleasure. And the 35mm Planar seems as excellent as the 28 and 45, again a matter of perception.
 
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