pesphoto
Veteran
So, Ive bought the wooden 8ft poles and 6ftX8ft stockade fence panels.
My question, which may be a dumb one, is once Ive got the poles in the ground how do I attatch the panels to the poles? Just screw them into the poles? some kind of bracket? something I haven't thought of?
Any advice from experienced fence builders?
My question, which may be a dumb one, is once Ive got the poles in the ground how do I attatch the panels to the poles? Just screw them into the poles? some kind of bracket? something I haven't thought of?
Any advice from experienced fence builders?
N
Nick R.
Guest
Yep, that's about all there is to it if the ground is level. If the ground slopes you have to decide how you want to spread out the difference in elevation among the sections.
pesphoto
Veteran
Nick R. said:
Thanks Nick. Do I just screw the panels into the poles?
N
Nick R.
Guest
The cross pieces should stick out a little bit from the ends of the panels. Typically there are three but there could be only two. The ends should butt up against each other in the middle of a post. That's where you put the screws. You don't usually put the screws into the verticals.
pesphoto
Veteran
Makes sense, but are you talking if the posts have holes to put the ends of the panels into? The poles are just solid, no holes to slide the ends into.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I'd end up with the posts too far apart. I just know it!:bang:
Never done this before, just pig or chicken fencing here sorry.
Never done this before, just pig or chicken fencing here sorry.
pesphoto
Veteran
Pig fence? hmm...
Im not looking forward to this project this weekend.
Im not looking forward to this project this weekend.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
pesphoto said:
Not to keep pigs in, but rather to keep other chicken-eating beasts out. A heavy wire fence with 3x6" openings at the bottom and 6x6" openings at the top. Most likely one of those local dialect things like shovel or *****.
jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Glad its you and not me!
Glad its you and not me!
Not too happy about the sound of this fence!
Those panels are mighty big!
Are they solid in the sense you can't see through them? Or can the wind get through?
I ask because an 8ft pole for a 6ft high panel doesn't allow much of the pole in the ground - about 1ft 9in if you are lucky.
What goes at the bottom of the panel against the earth? Are you putting in a kick board. This usually sort of finishes off the bottom of the fence and stops the panel from getting wet and rotting at the bottom.
What sort of terrain are fencing? If you are in rock you will get a good pole fixing - if you are in sand ...! Are you cementing in the poles?
I usually stretch out a line where the fence has to go.
Put in one pole but don't fix it too tight in the ground. That comes after the first panel is in place..
Fix panel to the pole.
Now I know just where to put the second pole!
Put in second pole, fix first panel to it.
Check top of panel is horizontal.
Attach second panel to second pole and continue with the run.
I suggest you dont put up all the poles first!! In this way you can cope with a slope - check the panel tops are horizontal and that should make sure the poles are vertical as well.
Does all this kinda make sense?
You can buy metal fixings to attach panel to pole. They are like a small metal sheets.
Attach to the pole through the centre. Bend the ends of the sheet round the panel. Fix the sheet onto the panel.
Bending one end of the sheet before you do any fixing is best - bend it so that the panel rests on it while you fix your side.
Are you still with me?
Perhaps the real solution is I come and fix it for you - just joking!!!!
Glad its you and not me!
Not too happy about the sound of this fence!
Those panels are mighty big!
Are they solid in the sense you can't see through them? Or can the wind get through?
I ask because an 8ft pole for a 6ft high panel doesn't allow much of the pole in the ground - about 1ft 9in if you are lucky.
What goes at the bottom of the panel against the earth? Are you putting in a kick board. This usually sort of finishes off the bottom of the fence and stops the panel from getting wet and rotting at the bottom.
What sort of terrain are fencing? If you are in rock you will get a good pole fixing - if you are in sand ...! Are you cementing in the poles?
I usually stretch out a line where the fence has to go.
Put in one pole but don't fix it too tight in the ground. That comes after the first panel is in place..
Fix panel to the pole.
Now I know just where to put the second pole!
Put in second pole, fix first panel to it.
Check top of panel is horizontal.
Attach second panel to second pole and continue with the run.
I suggest you dont put up all the poles first!! In this way you can cope with a slope - check the panel tops are horizontal and that should make sure the poles are vertical as well.
Does all this kinda make sense?
You can buy metal fixings to attach panel to pole. They are like a small metal sheets.
Attach to the pole through the centre. Bend the ends of the sheet round the panel. Fix the sheet onto the panel.
Bending one end of the sheet before you do any fixing is best - bend it so that the panel rests on it while you fix your side.
Are you still with me?
Perhaps the real solution is I come and fix it for you - just joking!!!!
R
RML
Guest
I agree that those poles sound a little short.
We built a fence around our 35x70 meter yard in Mongolia and these poles went in arm's length (about a meter). Add at least a man's height above ground (about 2 meters) to it and you end up with poles that IMO are taller than the ones you have. 3 meters is more than 8 feet, right?
We used planks instead of boards. Not only is it easier to cut these to proper length to match any undulations in the floor, but they're also easier and cheaper to replace.
And yes, make sure you don't space your poles too far apart. We used about 5 meter spacings and cut the planks to length. The planks were horizontally nailed with 10cm nails to the poles, which were just plain round pine tree poles.
We built a fence around our 35x70 meter yard in Mongolia and these poles went in arm's length (about a meter). Add at least a man's height above ground (about 2 meters) to it and you end up with poles that IMO are taller than the ones you have. 3 meters is more than 8 feet, right?
We used planks instead of boards. Not only is it easier to cut these to proper length to match any undulations in the floor, but they're also easier and cheaper to replace.
And yes, make sure you don't space your poles too far apart. We used about 5 meter spacings and cut the planks to length. The planks were horizontally nailed with 10cm nails to the poles, which were just plain round pine tree poles.
Bill58
Native Texan
I'd use metal brackets of the correct diameter like Wac-a- Bracs (brand name) to attach horizontal 2' X 4's to the metal poles, the nail the panels to the 2' X 4's. Maybe two brackets on each pole would be sufficient.
pesphoto
Veteran
Thanks everyone, wish me luck. Jesse1dog, can I fly you in this weekend? Its pretty flat terrain, backyard. Its a solid wood fence, no space between slats. We are cememting in the poles, yes. Will buy the metal brackets for attatching panels to poles. Also renting an auger for drilling holes. Gonna give it a go and see what happens.
N
Nick R.
Guest
The poles don't have to be as high as the fence. They only have to reach the first horizontal nailer. Probably around 60". That leaves 3' for the ground. That's plenty deep for Rhode Island. Can I suggest that you go to the home depot or lowes website and find the fence you've bought or the closest thing to it and post a link here. That would help me visualize.
jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Those poles!
Those poles!
Hi Pesphoto
I'll fly in in spirit to give you moral support!
Incidentally if you are cementing in the poles don't have the mix too wet - make the mix a bit on the dry side. You might consider treating the poles at the bottom before you cement in. Poles tend to rot just at ground level. I've never tried it but I read somewhere that wrapping the bottom of the pole in very thick paper before you put the cement round is a good idea! The thought is that when a pole snaps off, at ground level of course, the piece in the ground can be taken out easily (!) and a new pole slotted into the existing hole. Sounds a bit odd to me but it might just work.
Lets us know how you get on!
How many thumbs you crush with the hammer!
Wear working gloves to avaoid splinters in your hands and rub some barrier cream on your hands before you start!.
j
Those poles!
Hi Pesphoto
I'll fly in in spirit to give you moral support!
Incidentally if you are cementing in the poles don't have the mix too wet - make the mix a bit on the dry side. You might consider treating the poles at the bottom before you cement in. Poles tend to rot just at ground level. I've never tried it but I read somewhere that wrapping the bottom of the pole in very thick paper before you put the cement round is a good idea! The thought is that when a pole snaps off, at ground level of course, the piece in the ground can be taken out easily (!) and a new pole slotted into the existing hole. Sounds a bit odd to me but it might just work.
Lets us know how you get on!
How many thumbs you crush with the hammer!
Wear working gloves to avaoid splinters in your hands and rub some barrier cream on your hands before you start!.
j
pesphoto
Veteran
The fence is DONE!!! What a day today was. With a lot of help from my neighbot LArry, and a couple friends we did it. Next weekend we'll be doing LArry's yard which will completely enclose our yard. We did two sides of our yard today. I'll post pics soon. We cemented in the posts which are a little lower thanb the fence. It looks good. We primed and treated all thepoles before putting them in the ground and now are in the process of priming the fence . we'll be painting it white to match the neighbor's.
Thanks for all your help everyone.
Thanks for all your help everyone.