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Sony rumored to release another A7 - A7s. Few details at present.. Maybe 12mp...
 
Apparently an A7s announcement later this weekend, according to the rumor sites.
 
I hope the S stands for stabilization. If it does, I'll be selling my A7R for a lower-mp A7S. But I'd imagine it stands for speed. Which may sway me, anyway, if the results approach the A6000's and has 4K video to boot (with a good codec).
 
Samouraï said:
I hope the S stands for stabilization. If it does, I'll be selling my A7R for a lower-mp A7S. But I'd imagine it stands for speed. Which may sway me, anyway, if the results approach the A6000's and has 4K video to boot (with a good codec).
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I'd love an A7 with stabilization, it would do a lot to help with hand-holding my longer lenses.

But I am almost certain that the A7s will be focused on 4K video capture.

G
 
Godfrey said:
I'd love an A7 with stabilization, it would do a lot to help with hand-holding my longer lenses.

But I am almost certain that the A7s will be focused on 4K video capture.

G
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I won't hold my breath about a 5-axis sensor in the new A7S, but it would be a huge boon for the video crowd (at which this camera will be targeted). Why do you think Canon released that 35/2 IS prime?
 
The A7s was just announced. The "S" stands for sensitivity. Apparently it'll get up to just over 400,000iso. Pretty insane. What's also interesting is that the camera doesn't use line-skipping or pixel binning to record video. So every pixel is used. That's great to hear, and that alone may give people pause enough to want this camera. But I can't help but feel disappointed by the fact that 4K video recording will require an external recorder. I suppose it makes sense. These paltry SD cards aren't like to be able to handle all that data, but it's not as if it'll be raw data. Though the recorder may have that functionality.

What's more, a new 28-135/4 Power Zoom is being developed. Quite a large lens, if the picture is any indication. Gear/teeth on the focus ring and zoom ring. I hope this lens isn't a focus-by-wire pos again. Also, the lack of an aperture ring makes this lens less than useful for video productions.

I'm really kind of unsure how to feel. An APS-C (or S35), 4K camera with 5-axis stabilization and in-camera 4K (or a battery powered grip/attachment that records 4K) would have been far more useful.
 
Samouraï said:
The A7s was just announced. The "S" stands for sensitivity. Apparently it'll get up to just over 400,000iso. Pretty insane.
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This is just the first of additional cameras produced to the A7/A7r theme. By the next Photokina the many different choices will be confusing - not only from Sony, but likely all the other digital camera manufacturers as well.

Sony didn't bring out new cameras with the 7/7r, they brought out an entirely new class of camera. Now all the other manufacturers are in a race to get their version to the marketplace ASAP while Sony is in a race to keep their 1st place in the full frame "mirrorless" line. Give it a few years and there will be dozens of similar choices aiming at photogs hard earned camera budget.

Stephen
 
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-a7s-announced/

Overall, I'm supremely disappointed. Without a global shutter, there is no reason to consider it beyond the very nice low light capabilities and the lovely image quality. The video was nice to watch, but it was all locked down, no movement, no focus pulling. It's at best a B camera for locked down lowlight shots. But the fact that it requires an external recorder for 4K recording means that it'll need a rig; so the small size becomes a non-factor, and creative camera placement is no longer easy. The GH4 does 4K internally at over 100mbps.

Did you guys watch that video? How terrible did the 24-70FE look in its one shot? I thought very. I would kill for a good 24-70/4. Everything else looked pretty amazing, though.

Now, as a still camera, that sensor speed sounds like a lot of fun. But I hope the AF is something more impressive than what the A7 and A7r are toting.
 
CameraQuest said:
T Now all the other manufacturers are in a race to get their version to the marketplace ASAP while Sony is in a race to keep their 1st place in the full frame "mirrorless" line. Give it a few years and there will be dozen of similar choices aiming at photogs hard earned camera budget.

Stephen
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I hope so.
For now though winding back the MegaPixels is a bold more - almost akin to the Leica producing the Monochrom.

As Samouraï says the lack of global shutter is a disappointment ; even for stills photography.
I was quite alarmed when I first heard the A7 shutter.
Presumably there is a all electronic progressive shutter for stealthy stills ( on the GXR M-module this works well - occasionally suffering with certain artificial lighting )
 
Samouraï said:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-a7s-announced/

Overall, I'm supremely disappointed. Without a global shutter, there is no reason to consider it beyond the very nice low light capabilities and the lovely image quality. The video was nice to watch, but it was all locked down, no movement, no focus pulling. It's at best a B camera for locked down lowlight shots. But the fact that it requires an external recorder for 4K recording means that it'll need a rig; so the small size becomes a non-factor, and creative camera placement is no longer easy. The GH4 does 4K internally at over 100mbps.

Did you guys watch that video? How terrible did the 24-70FE look in its one shot? I thought very. I would kill for a good 24-70/4. Everything else looked pretty amazing, though.

Now, as a still camera, that sensor speed sounds like a lot of fun. But I hope the AF is something more impressive than what the A7 and A7r are toting.
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DPreview posted and then pulled a $1700 price. For that price, you get a much better video camera with less moire and much cleaner HD. At what price point were you expecting a full frame global shutter and high bitrate 4K? Sony has a full line of professional cameras and this is clearly prosumer built to a rather low price point. I doubt that high bitrate 4K could be saved to internal memory without such a small package full frame camera overheating. I suspect that the small sensor in the GH4 is much easier to tame, but then again the look isn't the same as with the larger sensor and the low light capabilities are not going to be the same. I think that Sony made design compromises to get the camera out the door at a low price. That is the market. You seem to be after a much higher end camera. That takes more money.. at least for the near future. I suspect that Sony will introduce a high end e/a mount hybrid camera at Photokina. That platform, with a larger size body, better battery and multiple processors will be a better platform upon which to come out with a low Mpix. video specific version. Of course, these cameras will be designed to a very different price point.
 
bwcolor said:
DPreview posted and then pulled a $1700 price. For that price, you get a much better video camera with less moire and much cleaner HD. At what price point were you expecting a full frame global shutter and high bitrate 4K? Sony has a full line of professional cameras and this is clearly prosumer built to a rather low price point. I doubt that high bitrate 4K could be saved to internal memory without such a small package full frame camera overheating. I think that Sony made design compromises to get the camera out the door at a low price. That is the market. You seem to be after a much higher end camera. That takes more money.. at least for the near future.
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IMO the issue is probably not with heat, but with SD cards not being able to handle the amount of data. Going to UHS-II may make sense a few years later, but right now you're basically paying hundreds of dollars for the ability to shoot a few minutes of untethered 4k...I'd rather just bring a laptop to the location.

But yes, this is an exciting camera, and should be much more forgiving for older lenses and wider lenses due to the large pixel pitch. I seriously doubt the $1700 tag, though. Pricing this below the A7r and Sony will be watching Panasonic crying and burning to the ground...
 
YYV_146 said:
IMO the issue is probably not with heat, but with SD cards not being able to handle the amount of data. Going to UHS-II may make sense a few years later, but right now you're basically paying hundreds of dollars for the ability to shoot a few minutes of untethered 4k...I'd rather just bring a laptop to the location.

But yes, this is an exciting camera, and should be much more forgiving for older lenses and wider lenses due to the large pixel pitch. I seriously doubt the $1700 tag, though. Pricing this below the A7r and Sony will be watching Panasonic crying and burning to the ground...
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Interesting Comments.
I guess tomorrow we will start to hear from some Beta testers.
It's a fun time for photographers 😀
 
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