Not Enough Time - Too Much Gear :(

Trius said:
So if the web designer kerfuffle isn't settled by the next RFF meet, I will pay extra for the ring side seat. :p
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Me... and Dave... in the mud... naked... rollin' around... dukin' it out... cha-ching!


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Geez, when & where is this gonna be? I might dig out the SLR and a telephoto lens...:D


Last time I shot a wedding it was all 4x5 formals, except for the 810 portrait of the couple. B&W & Color. I sweated bullets the whole time because I had only enough film holders to get three of each set-up in 4x5. Lots of Uncle Geeches in that family! I charged a lot, and really marked up the film/processing/proofs, and made a good bit on this job, but in the end I just couldn't do it again. I shot lots of weddings when I was in NYC, as the third doing candids after lighting the formals- and whatever your role- they are just exhausting.
You are made of stouter stuff than I Dave- more power to ya.
 
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ywenz, thank you very much, it must be so. Wedding photography has certainly changed, and I'm old-school. IMO, 1000's of shots are now taken simply because digital has made it possible. It certainly is not necessary.
 
FrankS said:
ywenz, thank you very much, it must be so. Wedding photography has certainly changed, and I'm old-school. IMO, 1000's of shots are now taken simply because digital has made it possible. It certainly is not necessary.
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Indeed Frank, it has... even in 10-15 years (since I was in the game!) it has changed by leaps and bounds! Intriguing and depressing at the same time.


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Frank: As long as the album at the end looks fantastic, it doesn't really matter in my book of how many shots the photog shoots, as long as its within a reasonable quantity for him to process afterwards..

One can even look at the low cost per digital shot as blessing for the "run and gun" photographers who find it faster to shoot n' chimp n' adjust rather than get a careful light reading as the first step.
 
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ywenz said:
Frank: As long as the album at the end looks fantastic, it doesn't really matter in my book of how many shots the photog shoots, as long as its within a reasonable quantity for him to process afterwards..

One can even look at the low cost per digital shot as blessing for the "run and gun" photographers who find it faster to shoot n' chimp n' adjust rather than get a careful light reading as the first step.
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Bingo.


I would prefer to be nice and slow about a lot of things - it's only lately (as in this year) that I found my shot count rising above 1,200 for a full day affair. But on that "day of days" everyone is moving so fast. I change a lens and I miss an emotion. I switch ISO and I miss another. I remove a lens cap and I miss one more. It's that fast.

Dave
 
FrankS said:
IMO, 1000's of shots are now taken simply because digital has made it possible. It certainly is not necessary.
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Or you could think of it as being the freedom to try something different.

I've played 2nd shooter to a couple of experienced wedding photogs, including one who was shooting a Contax 645. I looked for angles and interactions that the main photog didn't get, and there was _lots_ of those moments.
 
memphis said:
everybody I know doing weddings is digital and cranking out an ungodly # of images..... nobody ever mentions that they're working harder because of the volume of editing and also higher usage of the equipment --- i'll continue doing weddings in film
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While I appreciate digital in my own way... I dare say that many of the people shooting weddings in digital today... know little of film... and have grown dependent upon the technology....

Film is the novelty now... which I believe is unfortunate, and quite pathetic. So many people out there are missing out.
 
@Noel, a pool snake is a long poly / foam "noodle" about 6 - 7 feet long and about 4 inches in diameter. The kids use them for play, floating upon or beating on eachother for fun

@ ywenz.. if you do wedding videos.... I think I'm impressed more than your clients are. Editing video is ... "just a little time consuming"

@ all the film buffs here and I'm one too. I just went to a full blown wedding photography studio run by 6 photographers. They sold me all their film.. 120 and 35mm. No more film because the clients like digital blow ups on archival paper using inkjets. The images are blown up to 22" x 30" ... and they look like giant patterns of pixels to me. I asked if people weren't complaining about the "image quality" from a digital blow up. The answer was.. they like the look.

BTW they "do Black and White" because it's popular and the clients like the novelty.
Long / Short: despite photographic image quality, digital blow ups are being bought by consumers

@ Dave, FWIW nice work at the DVB wedding shoot. SMLG has it up several places on the net. Now sit back and wait for more enquiries.
 
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Geez, when & where is this gonna be? I might dig out the SLR and a telephoto lens...
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Now there is a target some thrown mud.

Hope Rover reads this. He may be able to help you out. This may become the "summer of fulfilment".
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I keep talking myself out of my GAS Frank. It is strange having so much self control, I don't know that I like it.
 
Xmas said:
Dave

Shoot lots of colour film >>300, scan for proofs.

One good shot 20x16 on ciba paper or slide show on large screen.

Bride and groom normally zero sales resistance.

Noel
P.S. pool snake?
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Oui, a pool snake... because I wanted to get the PG rating for the thread... else I would have suggested something more graphically violent.


:p
 
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