Sonnar design for M or LTM???

[BigSteveG]

In reviewing some images from my old Contax G I'm really liking the "dissolving" boke I see from the 90mm Sonnar. I don't have that system anymore and am wondering if there are any good lenses in the Sonnar design for Leica, either M or screw. Anyone have any ideas? I'm looking for a similar rendering.

 

[santino]

well, there is the ZM 2/85 Sonnar in M mount. It seems to be pretty good but it's pricey. good luck

 

[ferider]

Nikkor 85/2, Nikkor 105/2.5, Jupiter 9, M-Hexanon 90/2.8.

Roland.

 

[xayraa33]

there is the Nikkor 85mm in LTM, which is a very nice lens and the hit and miss Jupiter 9, really good if you can get an LTM one that focuses properly.

 

[BigSteveG]

I've been wondering about that Nikkor.....

I've been wondering about that Nikkor.....

and the Hexanon. I think 2.8 would be sufficient for this particular lens.

 

[BigSteveG]

More specific question.....

More specific question.....

Can I expect to see that same "dissolve" from the Hexanon or Nikkor? I would expect so in the new Zeiss. Don't really want to spend that much on this lens though.

 

[BigSteveG]

Also......

Also......

is the 50mm M-hexanon a Sonnar design as well?

 

[ferider]

Hi Steve,

Can I expect to see that same "dissolve" from the Hexanon or Nikkor? I would expect so in the new Zeiss. Don't really want to spend that much on this lens though.

I think so. Here are examples (that I have shown before)

Hexanon wide open:

For all practical purposes this lens behaves like a Hasselblad 150 C-Sonnar
to my eyes. It's small and compact.

Nikkor 85/2 wide open:

Here you see that the Nikkor 85 gives slight donuts in bad conditions:

is the 50mm M-hexanon a Sonnar design as well?

I believe it's a Planar-based design.

Best,

Roland.

 

[BigSteveG]

Thanks Roland..

Thanks Roland..

I definitely prefer the Hexanon shot. What's a good price to pay for that lens?

 

[venchka]

Here is a recent discussion of 85mm Sonnar designs...

Link to Sonnars

...wherein Roland convinces me to buy the Nikkor 85mm/2.0 while withholding the Konica 90/2.8 M-Hexanon.

 

[ferider]

I definitely pprefer the Hexanon shots. What's a good price to pay for that lens?

Around US 400 in good condition. They come up pretty rarely though. 46mm
filter, hood is built in, 0.9m min focus.

Cheers,

Roland.

 

[rich815]

Sonnar design or not I've been very pleased with the 90/4 Elmar-M, examples here:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=90Elmar&w=38698047@N00

I'm still a Contax G user and love the 90 Sonnar. The 90 Elmar is not as razor sharp or contrasty but for portraits and such (see examples) is a great performer with very decent bokeh, IMHO. In fact for B&W work I prefer the 90 Elmar to the 90 Sonnar G.

 

[venchka]

Rub it in...

Rub it in...

Around US 400 in good condition. They come up pretty rarely though. 46mm
filter, hood is built in, 0.9m min focus.

Cheers,

Roland.

...having passed on at least 3 in the last year. :bang:

 

[ferider]

...having passed on at least 3 in the last year. :bang:

Come on, Wayne, just another day or two ....

The Hexanon is supposed to be a copy of the Contax 90/2.8.

Roland.

 

[venchka]

I know. I know.

I won't pass on 90 M-Hexanon #4 if/when I find it. Then I will be selling an as new 75mm & a really nice 90mm Elmarit.

 

[BigSteveG]

Nice shots Rich.....

Nice shots Rich.....

but I'm still digging that Hexanon OOF....nice and sharp too....

 

[BigSteveG]

You guys have convinced me......

You guys have convinced me......

the Hexanon is on its way!!!

 

[furcafe]

IIRC, I read that both are technically Ernostars (design precursor to the Sonnar) rather than Sonnars.

The Hexanon is supposed to be a copy of the Contax 90/2.8.

Roland.

 

[ferider]

Correct. And so is the Hasselblad 150 C-Sonnar, I believe. Brand vs. design name ...

 

[matt fury]

I thought it was proved in the last thread about this that the 85 Nikkor was not a Sonnar?