How am I supposed to try something...

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HSI

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...like a Rapidwinder when I have no access to one or people with one?
I want to play with one and give the ole' one over and see if its for me or not.
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Yet... I'm a fool to ask with only an M3 in my arsenal...
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Break me down on these things.
 
I asked NASA a similar question because I wanted to try a space shuttle, but none of my friends has one.

When they reply I'll give it the once over and see if it's for me or not.
 
Sometimes it's an act of faith.

I love mine, but then, I like most of the trigger bases I've tried (SCNOO, Voigtländer, Leicavit-MP, Rapid-Winder). My wife never uses them.

This is why we used to have camera stores instead of internet box-shifters. Keeping stock for people to play with cannot be done for free.

Of course, if anyone but you knew where 'Galt' was, you might find someone nearby who owns one...

Cheers,

R.
 
I used to enjoy seeing motor drives and winders used, and liked the sound when I saw them on TV or in movies. I never had one for a rangefinder, only SLR's. So I then got one for my Contax 139Q and later for my Yashica FX 103 and Fujica AZ1. I found that I didn't really like them so much after all. They add weight and noise. I can generally wind with the advance lever just about as fast as the winders without worrying about seeing through the viewfinder. I think it is very much a question of personal taste. As noted by Roger Hicks, some like them, some don't. I found myself in the later camp, much to my surprise. Also as he said, you need to find a shop that has a camera with one and see if they will at least let you try it in their showroom. Good luck.
 
The M3 can be converted to take the Rapidwinder M4P/M6 by installation of the intermediate drive with the coupling in the bottom. The M2 Rapidwinder uses the extended shaft to drive the advance (it is smoother as it is a direct drive!). I know gerry at Kinderman in Toronto will do the conversion as will Don Goldberg (DAG) and in Europe someone like Ottmar Michealy will do it. If you do the m6/M4P installation this also means that you can use the later Leicavit MP for the M6/MP.
It is really only worthwhile if you are a/a left eye shooter and b/intend to keep the camera for a long, long time as it is not cheap conversion when you factor in a winder etc.
 
I give up. Where is Galt? or does anyone have Galt? I have to go on a Galt later today. You have a lot of Galt with your attitute. Way down the Galt river thats where my true love. Gosh Galt it. Gotta Galt now. You'all Galt back now. Galt bye.
 
kshapero said:
I give up. Where is Galt? or does anyone have Galt? I have to go on a Galt later today. You have a lot of Galt with your attitute. Way down the Galt river thats where my true love. Gosh Galt it. Gotta Galt now. You'all Galt back now. Galt bye.
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It's sorta like karma or bokeh. You know: good Galt and bad Galt.

Cheers,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
It's sorta like karma or bokeh. You know: good Galt and bad Galt.

Cheers,

R.
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Are you saying that if don't have bokeh, I must have karma and vice versa? That is Galtish for sure.:D
 
Roger Hicks said:
It's sorta like karma or bokeh. You know: good Galt and bad Galt.

Cheers,

R.
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Are you saying that if don't have bokeh, I must have karma and vice versa? That is Galtish for sure.:D
 
Roger Hicks said:
This is why we used to have camera stores instead of internet box-shifters. Keeping stock for people to play with cannot be done for free.
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I miss camera stores - especially those that had shelves of used gear to browse thru.

Every damn store I go to now has the cameras behind the counter so you have to ask staff to see something and then face a barrage of pointless questions/opinions when all you want is to test how something 'feels'.
(I had the same with video cameras in a store the other day...having suffered endless advice, the staff member finally got round to asking me what I actually planned to use the camera for..."I'm gonna stuff it in an impala carcass during a lion call up"...so I won't be needing the program modes then...:) )

I remember a store in Uxbridge (EFC or something) that had acres of shelves of stuff to look at...and people with knowledge to discuss cameras with...ahhh, those were the days...
 
DavidH said:
I remember a store in Uxbridge (EFC or something) that had acres of shelves of stuff to look at...and people with knowledge to discuss cameras with...ahhh, those were the days...
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I remember that; I would drive right across London to go there.

And Fox Talbot stores too in The Strand and in Tottenham Court Road.
 
Sometimes the best way to try something is to do a bit of research, then buy the item used. If you don't like it, you can usually sell it for little to no loss.
 
Memories! Get off the train at London Bridge for the 2 shops there, then jump on the Northern line for TCR (FT, Morgans and a couple of others) before covering the shops in Oxford Street. Finally back to the Strand to Fox Talbot and back on the train at Charing +

Kim

ClaremontPhoto said:
I remember that; I would drive right across London to go there.

And Fox Talbot stores too in The Strand and in Tottenham Court Road.
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Here in Vancouver we had Lens and Shutter. In the 70's and 80's they had a round display case with Horst Haberstroh in the center. Every saturday it would be packed with people, discussing cameras, film and whatever. They even had an ashtray on the counter! As Horst was a fervent Leica (and occasional Zeiss) advocate, the round display case was commonly known as "Fantasy Island". Things were traded, sold and bought. If there was a lens you wanted to try out, Horst would hand it to you and you went outside and shot a roll. With bl/w I used to have him put it aside and go home and soup the film, check the negs and go back and,usually, say "Ok, I take it!".
I know that economics today precludes this kind of store. Now it is all digital, memory-cards and gadget-bags and a small section of basic, very basic, darkroom supplies! Virtually no used film stuff and occasionally they dont even have Tri X in stock!
You could phone them from some remote location "OK, I need a Hassy SWC, 3 A16 backs and 50 rolls of EK 160. Have someone take it to the south airport and give it to the pilot of this corporate aircraft and put it all on my account!".
You learned more in a couple of hours around "fantasy Island" than you could reading manuals and "How To's". You had a technical problem, you asked and somebody would know what to do. You needed a gadget for a shoot, someone would go "Here, take mine - dont need it right now".
So, E bay and classifieds are most likely cheaper, but I miss this interaction between photographers (amateurs and pro's alike) and the education that this provided.
 
Ha.
All the stores around me have a couple Leicas and thats it.
(Though one does have a really clean M3, snappy parts and all)
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Until I get a sutible camera, I won't buy a rapid winder.
 
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