kram
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Folks, is just me, but I keep thinking - will Zeiss produce a ZM 35mm f1.4😀 . This year, next year, never? Should I stop dreaming of this and stick to the 35mm f2?
ZM f1.4 35mm?
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kshapero
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When you hear its for real, let me know.
Hephaestus
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Lucky you- Voigtlander (who builds most of the Zeiss lenses) just announced a 35mm f1.4... 🙂
Avotius
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my guess is there will be no 35 1.4 for zeiss as they are working with cosina to produce lenses, which tells me they dont want to compete with each other.
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rich815
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All I know is whether ZM makes one or not, I'm getting it for sure!!!
FanMan
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Do not understand it. Why speculating about a lens that might never be produced - instead of buying a lens that is available and going outside and use it? If the ZM 1.4/35 will never come, you have missed surely a good number of photos and much fun while waiting for it. If you need a 1.4/35 now, then take the Voigtlaender or the Leitz. And if you don't need the extra stop, take the Biogon if you prefer the Zeiss lens. But take a lens and use it. If the ZM 1.4/35 really will be offered by Carl Zeiss, then you can sell the "old" 35. A photo taken with a 2.0/35 while waiting for the 1.4/35 is better than a photo missed, only because you are waiting for a lens that is never available. And will the extra stop really boost the quality of your photos compared to a 2.0/35?? It's the same as those threads about/on a digital ZI ... .
rxmd
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And 35 1.4 @ 559$ is less awesome or something?ErikFive said:
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FanMan
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That's what I'm saying - if you need the extra stop: go for it. And if you need the lens now, then go for it now, instead of waiting for the ZM lens that might never come. The decision between the CV and the Leica: 2.5K difference in price might help when considering the pros and cons of those 2 lenses. At least if you want a new one.ErikFive said:
FanMan
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And I went for the ZM 2.0/35 ...ErikFive said:
Cron
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I too have the ZM 2/35 and will try the CV just for this one more stop
noimmunity
scratch my niche
sometimes the lens that doesn't exist is better
sometimes the lens that doesn't exist is better
that's why i have both the ZM 2/35 and the CV 1.2/35
the lens i really wish i could buy is a zm 2/85 or a leica 2/75. with the prices those sell for, i kind of wish they didn't really exist, if you know what i mean.
sometimes the lens that doesn't exist is better
Cron said:
that's why i have both the ZM 2/35 and the CV 1.2/35
the lens i really wish i could buy is a zm 2/85 or a leica 2/75. with the prices those sell for, i kind of wish they didn't really exist, if you know what i mean.
FanMan
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For indoor I mostly use Ilford XP2 super and with ASA400 the 2.0 is mostly sufficient.
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FanMan
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noimmunity
scratch my niche
beautiful photo, fanman, esp. the sparkling of the asphalt underneath the cars...
Gabriel M.A.
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And that was my sad realization. I'd love to see a 35mm f/1.4 Distagon/Biogon without the size increase from the 35mm f/2 Biogon, of course.Avotius said:
I have little faith in most CV lenses for digital; I've tried the 35mm Ultron and the 40mm f/1.4 Nokton on the M8 (as well as the 50 Nokton and 28 Ultron), and while the images are really nice (and hardly any complaints from me when used on film), on digital there's an unacceptable amount of flare in the highlights, and veiling flare in some conditions.
The 35mm f/2 Biogon has wonderful bokeh, excellent resolution, and renders light beautifully, and even flare in awful conditions is handled beautifully. I still have an issue with its size for the type of lens, but I've learned to live with it and not wish it would be something it isn't (namely, the size of a pre-asph 35mm Summicron).
If Zeiss came up with a 35mm f/1.4 lens for M-mount, oh la la.
FanMan
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Thank you - the Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart offers some very nice opportunities for taking photos of very attractive objects ...noimmunity said:
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mfogiel
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When I wrote a letter to Zeiss about the C Sonnar, I also asked if I could expect new ZM lenses, and the answer was "yes". Since they have covered the whole range from 15 to 85mm, and I do not really think they want to make anything longer for the Ikon , I think the logical choice would be to try to definitely do away with the Leica myth by attacking their faster lens range, so I have saved up some cash and am waiting for something really nice in the 35mm and 50mm brackets.
kram
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What prompted my post is that Zeiss have brought out the f1.5/50mm after the well recieved f2/50mm - then they bring out a SLOWER f4.5/21mm after the f2.8/21mm for a simalr price ( in the UK f2.8 £650+TAX F4.5 £595+TAX??
So, I thought, to fill out the ZM lens range a f1.4/35mm would seem the ideal candidate- at a lower price than a secondhand leica f1.4/35mm (one would hope so).
Tell me more about the VC f1.4/35mm
So, I thought, to fill out the ZM lens range a f1.4/35mm would seem the ideal candidate- at a lower price than a secondhand leica f1.4/35mm (one would hope so).
Tell me more about the VC f1.4/35mm
Cron
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telenous
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Since we are in speculation mode...
A 35 f/1.4 poses some really tough challenges for the designers and the parameters they have to fight on are size, performance esp. wide open (contrast, resolution, flare control, and why not a reasonable bokeh), and ultimately price. You can tweak the first two and affect the third which seems to me to be the path taken by CV so far. If Zeiss were to take on the Summilux 35 f/1.4 Asph. on both size and performance my suspicion is that they would end up with a quite expensive lens, not unlike the Leica one. They can throw away considerations of size, as CV has done with their Nokton 35 f/1.2 and as Zeiss has done with the Biogon 35, which is very nearly the size of the faster Summilux 35 Asph (a lens that is already quite big for a 35) and reduce costs. Still it would be nice to have a Zeiss 35 f/1.4 on offer, if not for any other reason but to start another furious debate on the merits and demerits of what will no doubt be two of the finest fast 35's on the market. 😀
That's all for now, speculation overdrive over 😉 :angel:
A 35 f/1.4 poses some really tough challenges for the designers and the parameters they have to fight on are size, performance esp. wide open (contrast, resolution, flare control, and why not a reasonable bokeh), and ultimately price. You can tweak the first two and affect the third which seems to me to be the path taken by CV so far. If Zeiss were to take on the Summilux 35 f/1.4 Asph. on both size and performance my suspicion is that they would end up with a quite expensive lens, not unlike the Leica one. They can throw away considerations of size, as CV has done with their Nokton 35 f/1.2 and as Zeiss has done with the Biogon 35, which is very nearly the size of the faster Summilux 35 Asph (a lens that is already quite big for a 35) and reduce costs. Still it would be nice to have a Zeiss 35 f/1.4 on offer, if not for any other reason but to start another furious debate on the merits and demerits of what will no doubt be two of the finest fast 35's on the market. 😀
That's all for now, speculation overdrive over 😉 :angel:
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