Superdan138
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I own a 35mm Summicron and use it on my Leica M6 non TTL body. I wanted a good 2nd lens.....was thinking about the Summilux 75mm or Summicron 90mm.....whats better choice.....or are there any other lenses that would be great for what Im going for? I would like to do more close up shots, thats why I am looking for the larger lens, thanks.
-Dan
-Dan
35mmdelux
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the 75mm is generally a more useful 2nd lens. the 75mm is called an extended 50mm. If you prefer tighter shots, then go for the 90mm.
jke
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I can't focus a 90mm lens with a Leica. My own personal weakness. Therefore, anything in that focal length I shoot with a Nikon F '64 body. To keep in Leica, that would be a Leicaflex and a Summicron-R 90mm. And that also accommodates my second frustration with a 90mm - you only need it when the camera has the other lens on it. Again, FOR ME, having the Leica with a wide in my hand and the Nikon (or Leicaflex as above) with a portrait lens slung over my shoulder works well.
Yes, I am a heretic. Perhaps that explains my vision.
Yes, I am a heretic. Perhaps that explains my vision.
35mmdelux
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jke:
I have a Zeiss 50mm/1.4 mounted on Nikon D200, with the crop factor turns it into a 75mm. great results.
I have a Zeiss 50mm/1.4 mounted on Nikon D200, with the crop factor turns it into a 75mm. great results.
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payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
The 75 will give you more speed and a more "normal" perspective. However, I've only ever used 85/90/100 -- and love(d) them.
oscroft
Veteran
It's entirely subjective, but traditionally a 75 is considered a very good companion to a 35 (and it's a tradition that suits me personally)
ferider
Veteran
I personally like either 35/75 or 28/50/90.
The 75/1.4 is a beast to focus though; but a great lens.
Roland.
The 75/1.4 is a beast to focus though; but a great lens.
Roland.
mr_phillip
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35/75 is a great combo. Can't say I'm a fan of the 75mm brightlines in the Leicas, but plenty of folks manage just fine with them. Personally I'd go for the 75mm Apo Summicron over the 'lux though.
Tom A
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In the 35 - 75 package, I would go for the 75f2 Summicron! Most likely one of the best lenses Leica ever made. The 50f1.4 Asph and the 75f2 Summicron Asph are the only two lenses that Leica makes today, that sets them apart from the VC/Zeiss line-up. All the other focal lengths can be gotten at 1/4 to 1/3 of the Leica prices and no loss of performance and in some cases a better performance than the Leica offerings. However, the 50f1.4 Asph and the 75f2.0 Asph are "peerless".
jke
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@35mmdelux - that's the new Zeiss-for-Nikon lens? I've looked at those and wondered how they were. I suppose I shouldn't, since they have a Zeiss name plate (I swear by their binoculars) but I guess I wondered anyway.
Tom A
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Zeiss makes two 35's in M-mount. The Biogon 35mm f2.0 )a.k.a the Summicron killer!), biggish and good and the recently introduced Zeiss C Biogon 35f2.8 (a modern Summaron?). Very good, extremely sharp and quite compact.
The only 35f1.4 is the Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f1.4 in either Single Coat or Multi coat versions. This is a pre-asph Summilux contender rather than a 35f1,4 Asph one.
They all have different characters and they are all good. Interestingly enough - you can buy all three for less than a Summicron 35 ASPH! Go figure!
The only 35f1.4 is the Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f1.4 in either Single Coat or Multi coat versions. This is a pre-asph Summilux contender rather than a 35f1,4 Asph one.
They all have different characters and they are all good. Interestingly enough - you can buy all three for less than a Summicron 35 ASPH! Go figure!
pfoto
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Get a 75 to go with your 35, they complement each other very well. Either the Leica Summicron or the Voigtlander Color-Heliar rather than the Summilux, which is a beautiful lens but big(ish) and tough to focus.
35mmdelux
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35mmdelux
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Mr. A:
Puts says (on his website) that the zeiss 35mm/2.0 ZM is a generation removed (going backwards) from the newer Leica offerings (para.). Yours seems to contradict his assertion. Just wondering..
Paul
Tom A
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Erwin (who is a good friend) and I tend to disagree on some lenses.He likes MTF curves and testcharts, I use the lenses as I would any lens. Aimless wanderings and shooting, usually with 250-400 asa film, handheld too. Some lenses works better this way than others. The Biogon 35mm f2 is one of them. It is a bit of a handful, but I like the way it "draws" on to film.
The ZM lenses and the VC lenses are "new" designs, based on older configurations, but with updated glass-technology and coatings. In many ways they are state of the art wehen it comes to design. Leica has been massaging existing designs for decades and are somewhat limited as to how much they can squeeze out of it. Their recent offerings are very good - the 50f1.4 Asph, the 75f2 Apo and some of the wider ones are getting revamped, the 28f2.8 Asph is one and also the f2.5 line (35/50/75). Their problem is that many of their lenses are, however good they are, not superior to the offerings from Zeiss or VC - and their prices are too high for what you get.
Both Zeiss and Cosina has ventured into a realm that Leica has not touched. "Classic" lenses that replicate the performance of "legends" like the pre-asph Summilux as well as offering a variety of f stops and physical sizes to fit the user.
We, as rangefinder users, have bever had it so good. The choices are bewilderingly large, but you can get just about anything you need and want, not just what Leica thought you should want!
Rangefinder users are a small (but rather vocal) bunch. I suspect that the entire RF market world wide would not even fill the average soccer stadium! The Leica name is forefront, but a large portion of that is because there is a huge amount of used stuff being cycled around. The Zeiss and CV prducts are showing up now, but they are still a small market compared to the trade in used Leica.
The ZM lenses and the VC lenses are "new" designs, based on older configurations, but with updated glass-technology and coatings. In many ways they are state of the art wehen it comes to design. Leica has been massaging existing designs for decades and are somewhat limited as to how much they can squeeze out of it. Their recent offerings are very good - the 50f1.4 Asph, the 75f2 Apo and some of the wider ones are getting revamped, the 28f2.8 Asph is one and also the f2.5 line (35/50/75). Their problem is that many of their lenses are, however good they are, not superior to the offerings from Zeiss or VC - and their prices are too high for what you get.
Both Zeiss and Cosina has ventured into a realm that Leica has not touched. "Classic" lenses that replicate the performance of "legends" like the pre-asph Summilux as well as offering a variety of f stops and physical sizes to fit the user.
We, as rangefinder users, have bever had it so good. The choices are bewilderingly large, but you can get just about anything you need and want, not just what Leica thought you should want!
Rangefinder users are a small (but rather vocal) bunch. I suspect that the entire RF market world wide would not even fill the average soccer stadium! The Leica name is forefront, but a large portion of that is because there is a huge amount of used stuff being cycled around. The Zeiss and CV prducts are showing up now, but they are still a small market compared to the trade in used Leica.
kennethcooke
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Just recently followed same path- same camera and same lens- bought a 75mm Voigtlander 2.5 Heliar which is excellent and as it is not a priority focal length I did not want to go to the price of a Summicron. I did, however buy a 50mm Summicron as well which is superb and both for the same money if not less than a 75mm Summicron. Hope this helps