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I am looking now through TV at a film with/by Orson Wells, "The Third Man", and I hardly can contain my joy for seeing the master treatment of the spectrum from black to white.

In the past I have censured in these grounds recent films made by George Clooney, BW as well for the poor results in these grounds. In this respect, today I should correct myself and add prize for Clooney good intentions.

But folks, "The Third Man" on my screen, what deep a contrast ! what rich blacks ! what detailed blacks and whites altogether ! what illumination !

Cheers,
Ruben
 
This such a coincidence because just the other day I bought a DVD of "The Third Man" because it was mentioned as one of the best photographed B&W films. I'll watch it tonight.
 
You might like Citizen Kane also with Welles and Joseph Cotton.
nice B&W photography in CK too.
 
The Third man is great and was directed by Carol Reed. Check out Lars von Trier's The Element of crime, its sepia done beautifully. Also A touch of Evil, Citizen Cain and Tarkovski's Ivan's Childhood.
 
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A couple of such movies are Jim Jarmusch's "Stranger than paradise", filmed I think, by Robbie Muller and also Anonioni's "Eclipse" (in Italian with English subtitles). I checkout any film noir genre movies since they are usually in B&W.

Bets wishes,

Gary Haigh
 
The Third Man is one of my favourite old movies, not least because it's so beautifully shot.

The best black & white cinematography I've seen in recent years though is Control by Anton Corbijn (himself no mean photographer), the biopic of Joy Division lead singer Ian Curtis. Even if you're not interested in the subject, it's worth watching just for the fabulous monochrome work by cinematographer Martin Ruhe - it's knuckle-bitingly beautiful.
 
Fave B+W cinematography:
Antonioni: L'Eclisse
Bergman: 7th Seal
Godard: Alphaville (The opening credits even state, "Shot on Ilford HP-5"!)
 
Kane was not an impressive movie at all for content. For its lighting, composition, and editing it is amazing. But that does not make up for lousy content. IMHO. One needs to look back at films such as Faust by F.W. Murnau and Cabinet of Dr. Caligari by Robert Wiene.Two great examples of German Expressionism. Pandora's Box by Georg Wilhelm Pabst is amazing. And Fritz Lang's M is amazing as well. But one does not need to go back that far for great b+w films. Jean-Luc Godard's French New Wave film Breathless is excellent. Hitchcock's Strangers on a Train is excellent as well. The list can go on.
 
i was impressed by the stylistic bw cinematography of Double Suicide

http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=104

http://www.criterion.com/asp/list.asp?sort=title



moreover, most films by capable directors of the 'BW era' easily satisfies me. antonioni, bergman, godard, resnais, roehmar are among my favorites. i think their color works are equally good.

in the 'color era', woody allen's BW film, Manhattan, was beautifully executed and was praised by critics. i think he made more films in BW
 
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"Der Himmel Über Berlin" was good. Half of it is b&w.

"La Jetee" is among my favourites.

Im about to watch "Dr Strangelove" in the next few days.
 
Kane was not an impressive movie at all for content. For its lighting, composition, and editing it is amazing. But that does not make up for lousy content. IMHO. One needs to look back at films such as Faust by F.W. Murnau and Cabinet of Dr. Caligari by Robert Wiene.Two great examples of German Expressionism. Pandora's Box by Georg Wilhelm Pabst is amazing. And Fritz Lang's M is amazing as well. But one does not need to go back that far for great b+w films. Jean-Luc Godard's French New Wave film Breathless is excellent. Hitchcock's Strangers on a Train is excellent as well. The list can go on.



Citizen Kane borrowed (or, was influenced by, shall we say) a lot from the German Expressionist lighting evidenced in the films of Wiene and Murnau but at the same time it is distinctly American in the way lighting is definitely non-stagey (a cinematographic problem that most, if not all, European movies suffered from at the time). I personally find the film very important in terms of content and formal structure as well, so I have to disagree with you on that.



In many ways, Citizen Kane was a happy accident. Welles was fresh out of the theatre and radio but (by his own admission) clueless on moviemaking. As a result he had absolutely no preconceptions about what should be done or could be done in a film. Fortunately for him, he had by his side Gregg Toland, a cinematographer that could deliver whatever Welles requested in his wide-eyed cinematographic innocence. If Welles asked for something that could not be done, Toland wouldn't say anything, he 'd just go away and work on it and come back with some sort of solution the next day. There's no denying that Welles himself was a visual genius and this was brought out with all the cinematographers he worked with later. The Magnificent Ambersons (a very important film even in its truncated version), Touch of Evil, and The Lady from Shanghai all show Welles' visual genius. Incidentally, since the film comes up very often, I don't think he had anything whatsoever to do with the cinematography of The Third Man, although the film is justly celebrated for it (it was lucky for Reed to have him to film his scenes for the little that Welles, ever busy with numerous other projects, made available himself for filming - although he did pen the well-known 'Cuckoo clock' lines).



As for other films, I also like very much the B&W photography in Bergman's films (the cinematographer was nearly always Sven Nykvist). It's not just the photography (as in camera movement and angle), it's also that they went for a specific kind of light in Faro island where they were filming most often. Hitchcock is another favourite director of mine but I don't think the photography in his B&W period was anything to write home about. The visual genius was there - the angles, the ability to narrate visually - but the lighting was somewhat average, mostly because light tecnicians in the UK, where he shot most of his B&W films, were lagging behind their counterparts in Hollywood. Most of Hitchcock's films that are now recognised as masterpieces were produced/filmed in the US and were in colour (the one exception being Notorious, which is B&W).



Last, many Soviet films show understanding and appreciation for light never really attained in the West. An off the cuff example is The Cranes are Flying by (the actually Georgian) Kalatozov - the plot is terribly cumbersome (I should say, for my taste) but the photography is jawdropping. In that respect perhaps even better is (again) Kalatozov's Soy Cuba. Exactly why people from the ex-Soviet Union are so sensitive to the changing qualities of light is a mystery to me but I kinda feel it is something deeply entrenched in their visual culture as I see it also in photos from FSU RFF and flickr members who do good photography. Or, may be, that's what photography is partly about anyway.





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Our 26" Sony TV died just after Christmas so we bought a 42" Plasma flat screen during the after-Xmas sales, and I have to say it's a joy to watch movies at home now. The Third Man is one of the first movies I rented and the B&W cinematography is so nice. The whole movie's a gem, though, cracking dialog and the xither score. :D

Here are a few more B&W gems:

La Bete Humaine: Shot mainly on trains and in rail yards of pre-WWII France. Jean Gabin evidently actually drove the train himself in some scenes. The lighting and vintage lenses make the massive steam trains seem almost alive. Beautiful.

Rules of the Game: Another Renoir film, this one was banned in France upon its release. Sharp as a scalpel even today, and beautifully shot, too.

Ugetsu: Set in feudal Japan, it's part samurai film, part ghost story and part romance. It works seamlessly and Mizoguchi makes the whole film seem like something dreamed rather than seen.

Orpheus: Cocteau's masterpiece, IMO. It's not technically the best photographed B&W film, but the effects he devised - liquid mirrors, etc., are still very effective even today. Check out the angel of death's henchmen on the WWII vintage Harleys.

La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc: It's hard to believe that a silent B&W film shot eighty years ago could be so emotionally powerful even today, but, my God this movie is powerful stuff. Maria Falconetti actually seems possessed, and the the photography - composition, lighting - is just the best. It's been remastered with a new score and you'll finish wondering why modern movies bother with dialog at all. :D
 
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Keep the recommendations coming, guys. I'm adding old favorites like "Andrei Rublev" to my Netflix queue, and "Control," which I hadn't heard of, is at the top, now. :)
 
I agree, 'Control' is very good, I watched it about a month ago. The photography is superb, it transposes you in a very bleak place, which, depending how you look at it, may be the UK of the late 70's or the world inside Ian Curtis' head. Sam Riley's performance as Ian Curtis makes the jaw drop a little. Good stuff.





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...Most of Hitchcock's films that are now recognised as masterpieces were produced/filmed in the US and were in colour (the one exception being Notorious, which is B&W)...

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i thought Rebecca, Spellbound, Psycho, all BW, were well received. no?
 
i thought Rebecca, Spellbound, Psycho, all BW, were well received. no?

Psycho was a runaway financial and critical success, and I think moneywise the greatest in Hitchcock's long career. He deliberately filmed in B&W to get a gritty, Gothic look that permeates the movie. (And, sorry, I 'd forgotten momentarily about it).

Rebecca won an Oscar for Best Picture but Hitchcock always said that David O. Selznick interfered much more than what he 'd liked. I am not a big fan of Spellbound (too much unsubtle psychoanalytic stuff that were in vogue at the time), although it has its moments. Not one of Hitchcock's great films, I think.


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What a lovely thread. Thanks for starting this Ruben.

I'd like to throw into the mix:

Fellini: La Dolce Vita
Godard: Bande a Part
Antonioni: L'Avventura
 
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Not to discredit them as being b/w films, but "Control" was shot in color (I believe Kodak 5218?) as was Clooney's "The Good German" and "Goodnight and Goodluck." Still, they are all beautiful.

For more modern b/w movies (actually shot on black and white film), I like "Pi" shot by Matthew Libatique and "Dark Days" shot by Marc Singer.

Both of these films were made with almost no budget. "Dark Days" is especially impressive when you consider that Marc Singer had no training/schooling in film making/photography at all and lived as a homeless person for an extended period of time to create his documentary.

For older films, I recently watched Alphaville again. While the story isnt exactly the strongest, the camera work of Raoul Coutard is very impressive. The opening shot of Lemmy Caution (the protagonist) lighting his cigarette and then the tracking shot, following him from the hotel lobby, then up in an elevator are very very cool.

Also, "Tokyo Story," shot by Yuuharu Atsuta, is a mastercourse in static camera work. The nearly square (1.37?) aspect ratio along with the cramped layout of Japanese households facilitate beautiful internal framing.

This is a cool thread.
 
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