Avotius
Some guy
I say someone over at Panasonic must be a fan of this forum because they just stuck something out that might be a nice little cam for us!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08072102panasoniclx3.asp
Check it out, but take special attention to this image:
Does this not look like something out of one of the "show us your leica bessa zeiss" threads?
Anyway...
A 24-60mm 2.0-2.8 lens? Just up my alley, all my favorite lengths, as long as it allows decent zoom tuning from the step zoom. Pity they didnt do the smart thing and just stick the lens from the LC1 on the front of it, maybe make the lens a little smaller, but you know what I mean, in a camera like this we want that touchy feely crap!
Anyway its a good looking machine, I dont buy their "bigger" CCD thing but I liked the LX1 and LX2 but they were lacking in a few areas, now they might have stuck enough guts into it to make it a contender for our type of photomagraphic peoples.
I hope they fixed panasonics pathetic noise problems though....
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08072102panasoniclx3.asp
Check it out, but take special attention to this image:
Does this not look like something out of one of the "show us your leica bessa zeiss" threads?
Anyway...
A 24-60mm 2.0-2.8 lens? Just up my alley, all my favorite lengths, as long as it allows decent zoom tuning from the step zoom. Pity they didnt do the smart thing and just stick the lens from the LC1 on the front of it, maybe make the lens a little smaller, but you know what I mean, in a camera like this we want that touchy feely crap!
Anyway its a good looking machine, I dont buy their "bigger" CCD thing but I liked the LX1 and LX2 but they were lacking in a few areas, now they might have stuck enough guts into it to make it a contender for our type of photomagraphic peoples.
I hope they fixed panasonics pathetic noise problems though....
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squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I actually do buy the sensor schtick. Keeping it to 10MP, larger sites, better NR circuitry...could be good.
They're going up against Sigma. I doubt the natural-light images will be superior, but I suspect the versatility and handling will be really nice.
I'm glad the manufacturers are making this kind of camera!
They're going up against Sigma. I doubt the natural-light images will be superior, but I suspect the versatility and handling will be really nice.
I'm glad the manufacturers are making this kind of camera!
kshapero
South Florida Man
really nice, thanks Panasonic
2XLX2
Established
WOW! sure looks good.
allen_a_george
Established
I was just thinking that. I took one look at that half-case and viewfinder, started reading the specs and ...
Well, kudos to Panasonic - but the proof will be in the image quality. I have not been too impressed with their previous cameras' high ISO output. Oh, and I wonder what the handling will be like.
Well, kudos to Panasonic - but the proof will be in the image quality. I have not been too impressed with their previous cameras' high ISO output. Oh, and I wonder what the handling will be like.
Avotius
Some guy
by the way that image up there is from dpreview, I wonder if it is ok to do that direct image stick up thing here like that....
anyway, I am glad someone out there is remotely listening to us who need a semi pro offering in a tiny digital camera, could it mean that companies may start making more of these things? Technology is coming around, could be, september will be quite interesting indeed!
anyway, I am glad someone out there is remotely listening to us who need a semi pro offering in a tiny digital camera, could it mean that companies may start making more of these things? Technology is coming around, could be, september will be quite interesting indeed!
Avotius
Some guy
if its anything like the LX1 or 2 it will be not bad at all for a small digicam, even though I ended up with the ricoh grd because of the black and white abilities, the LX2 was a close third in my choice (2nd was a G9)
Anyway, very exciting, one step closer to a "real" compact digital
allen_a_george
Established
I assume this is what the Leica CEO was talking about when he mentioned the following:
Taken from this article:The Future of Leica
Taken from this article:The Future of Leica
dazedgonebye
Veteran
"Panasonic responds to this problem by boldly reversing the industry trend of pushing toward ever-higher pixel counts."
Praise Panasonic for getting a clue and being willing to make this statement!
It's a sexy looking little thing in that half-case with the external finder.
24mm f2! Gotta love that. If they manage a usable 400 iso (dare I say 800?) I'd be interested.
Praise Panasonic for getting a clue and being willing to make this statement!
It's a sexy looking little thing in that half-case with the external finder.
24mm f2! Gotta love that. If they manage a usable 400 iso (dare I say 800?) I'd be interested.
ampguy
Veteran
looks interesting! The sensor isn't much larger than the LX1, but they're referring relative to their own P&S line, the FX35, etc. It's as big as a Fuji F30 or Ricoh GRD, but still smaller than an APS sized sensor. It gets a bit smaller when used in 3:2, and 4:3 modes like the other 16:9 native sensors.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Hmm, here are some unbelivably crummy sample images...
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9604.html
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9604.html
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Now THAT's getting close to what I was thinking! But APS-C would be even better. But let's wait for the first images. I think it will be rather good.
You can see Leica design in that cam for sure.
You can see Leica design in that cam for sure.
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
OMG those are beyond awful. And at iso 125 to boot. If that's what we can expect, I'll pass.
Avotius
Some guy
Those are some heroically bad looking images, I hate to say it but that image with the bridge, looks like genuine panasonic watercolor effects from noise reduction just like with my girlfriends old fx9 when used at....any iso.
hah....those are pretty crappy images indeed, I think my camera phone puts out images that look something like that
If this is what Leica's CEO calls "pure image" then Leica is boned.
More likely though, it was a pre production model that had not had all the tweeks done to it, but still, panasonic should have been a little smarter then to lend out something like that!
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dazedgonebye
Veteran
DPReview's take on this camera's predicessor was that you needed to keep it at iso 100.
My own limited experience with panasonic has been disapointing in the noise department.
Let's hope the real deal is better than the examples. If nothing else, at least this shows a good direction (as did the DP-1, but aren't we all tired of saying that?).
My own limited experience with panasonic has been disapointing in the noise department.
Let's hope the real deal is better than the examples. If nothing else, at least this shows a good direction (as did the DP-1, but aren't we all tired of saying that?).
joachim
Convicted Ektachome user
The first image is horribly underexposed. I would call this "operator error" instead of "equipment shortcoming"
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Avotius
Some guy
dont forget that under exposing should make the sky a nicer shade of blue, I dont think underexposure was the problem
joachim
Convicted Ektachome user
I have a Panasonic TZ3 (smaller sensor than the LX3). It has a lot of noise, but images print quite nicely, even at 8x10 inch or so. Noise is definitely less then what we see here daily from the "push Tri-X through the roof" gang
ampguy
Veteran
Unbelievably bad. I hope he got a bad or early sample or had some settings very wrong.
allen_a_george
Established
Well, the third image was properly exposed, and it looks like there's been a lot of smoothing.
Ah well, so much for that.
Ah well, so much for that.