Jan Van Laethem
Nikkor. What else?
Take a look at this item, first time I see a 5cm f/1.1 complete with lens caps and lens hood in what looks like excellent condition. And a price to match...
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Voigtlande...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Jan
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Voigtlande...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Jan
Wow, $5,600 and its not even the external mount version!
Not sure if the lens hood is original, but if it is, it alone can sell for more than $1,000. Or about $200 if its aftermarket. I didn't think the R2S had a base length long enough to focus a 5cm f1.1 wide open, but I guess in this case the camera is acting more as a useful rear lens cap
Not sure if the lens hood is original, but if it is, it alone can sell for more than $1,000. Or about $200 if its aftermarket. I didn't think the R2S had a base length long enough to focus a 5cm f1.1 wide open, but I guess in this case the camera is acting more as a useful rear lens cap
Jan Van Laethem
Nikkor. What else?
I guess in this case the camera is acting more as a useful rear lens cap![]()
I wouldn't mind having that lens cap, though.
Vickko
Veteran
The hood is Tom A's hood, $350 to $700 depending on whether you can find one.
Yes, it is only an internal mount lens - and a very very very optimistic price.
Vick
Yes, it is only an internal mount lens - and a very very very optimistic price.
Vick
Al Kaplan
Veteran
It amazes me that there are people that would pay that much money for what is really a "museum piece" rather than a practical lens. Even when new it wasn't considered a great lens, but it was an era when Canon and Nikon were fighting for bragging rights as to who had the fastest glass. This beat the Canon f/1.2 by a whopping 1/10 of an f/stop. A few years later Canon trumped Nikon with their f/0.95 and the race stopped.
Tri-X was a lot more grainy than it is now, and often pushed a stop or two. The grain was the defining feature of sharpness, not optical quality. If you really needed speed there was Agfa Isopan Record at ISO 1,000 and Kodak Royal-X Pan Recording (only available in bulk) at 1,200. With either film a Summicron really looked no sharper than the f/1.1 Nikkor. Lens sharpness couldn't compete with the grain.
The 50/1.4 Nikkor was an optical masterpiece, even by today's standards. Just think about how much film you could buy with the $5,000 you saved, and you wouldn't be afraid to actually take the thing out on the street and use it. Another way to look at it would be that if it were really such a great lens it would have seen some use, and even with light use for half a century it would look far from pristine. There weren't many collectors when that lens was new, and they were mostly looking for things like the Ermanox or perhaps the rare Compur Leica with a fixed Elmar and a Compur leaf shutter mounted in the lens. Back aboout 1970 I knew one guy who had both the older dial set and newer rim set versions, along with a Leitz Thambar complete with its center spot filter, and a few other goodies. He didn't even display them! He kept them in locked boxes in a temperature and humidity controlled storage facility. (I always wondered if his heirs sold the stuff at a yard sale or donated it to a church rummage sale?)
Tri-X was a lot more grainy than it is now, and often pushed a stop or two. The grain was the defining feature of sharpness, not optical quality. If you really needed speed there was Agfa Isopan Record at ISO 1,000 and Kodak Royal-X Pan Recording (only available in bulk) at 1,200. With either film a Summicron really looked no sharper than the f/1.1 Nikkor. Lens sharpness couldn't compete with the grain.
The 50/1.4 Nikkor was an optical masterpiece, even by today's standards. Just think about how much film you could buy with the $5,000 you saved, and you wouldn't be afraid to actually take the thing out on the street and use it. Another way to look at it would be that if it were really such a great lens it would have seen some use, and even with light use for half a century it would look far from pristine. There weren't many collectors when that lens was new, and they were mostly looking for things like the Ermanox or perhaps the rare Compur Leica with a fixed Elmar and a Compur leaf shutter mounted in the lens. Back aboout 1970 I knew one guy who had both the older dial set and newer rim set versions, along with a Leitz Thambar complete with its center spot filter, and a few other goodies. He didn't even display them! He kept them in locked boxes in a temperature and humidity controlled storage facility. (I always wondered if his heirs sold the stuff at a yard sale or donated it to a church rummage sale?)
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NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
That hood is after-market. And it's NOT Tom's...
How about this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&item=230299741432
Ended @ $2137.00
Kiu
How about this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&item=230299741432
Ended @ $2137.00
Kiu
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jmkelly
rangefinder user
I think this item has been relisted at least twice at this price - apparently the world agrees. IMO the auction Kiu referred to for the ext. mount ended at a more realistic price ($2,200) but that seller is also holding out for more like $3,500. Hmm.Yes, it is only an internal mount lens - and a very very very optimistic price.
sp9107sp
Well-known
sp w/ 1.1
sp w/ 1.1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230300442429
sold buy it now $2137, 1.1 with free sp
sp w/ 1.1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230300442429
sold buy it now $2137, 1.1 with free sp
Vickko
Veteran
The $2137 lens is missing an iris blade. No big deal if you are a user. Really big deal if you are a collector.
But, at $2137, it is a good buy. That SP is worth $1K by itself.
Vick
But, at $2137, it is a good buy. That SP is worth $1K by itself.
Vick
The $2137 lens is missing an iris blade. No big deal if you are a user. Really big deal if you are a collector.
But, at $2137, it is a good buy. That SP is worth $1K by itself.
Vick
Do you know anyone who make replacement 50/1.1 blades?
Stephen
Not sure if the lens hood is original, but if it is, it alone can sell for more than $1,000. Or about $200 if its aftermarket. I didn't think the R2S had a base length long enough to focus a 5cm f1.1 wide open, but I guess in this case the camera is acting more as a useful rear lens cap![]()
Mint unbroken original plastic 50/1.1 hoods sell for about $2500 The much rarer metal version $3500 or more. Those prices are for the lens hood, NO lens.
Tom A's better than the original 50/1.1 lens hoods are sold out at $700 each. PICS and info here http://www.cameraquest.com/nrf5011TAhood.htm Apparently there is a Japanese knock off of Tom's hood, which I have not yet examined.
Stephen
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NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I do!!Do you know anyone who make replacement 50/1.1 blades?
Stephen
Bald mountain Photo.
Kiu
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
Apparently there is a Japanese knock off of Tom's hood, which I have not yet examined.
Stephen
Right here, offered on Yahoo Japan Auctions all the time for 24,000 yen

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n68096134
Kiu
MikeL
Go Fish
Kiu, you gots some skills!
Vickko
Veteran
Wow.
Didn't know that there are enough 50/1.1 shooters out there to support two manufacturers of hoods.
...Vick
Didn't know that there are enough 50/1.1 shooters out there to support two manufacturers of hoods.
...Vick
1948nikon
Established
f1.1 blades
f1.1 blades
f1.1 blades
I may be able to source some for you in Australia. May take a few weeks.Do you know anyone who make replacement 50/1.1 blades?
Stephen
raid
Dad Photographer
Stephen,
Will you buy and fix the lens?
Will you buy and fix the lens?
Hood sold by Yama Special.
http://openuser7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/user/yama1yamajp
Don't remember how told me, these hoods are made in China and sold in Japan. Was also available through MAP camera.
I have one of theirs on my Millennium.
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They're well made hoods. I've handled a few at Kimura Camera (though not the 50/1.1 hood). I could be wrong, but I heard that the guy listing them on the YJ auctions is the manufacturer.
Mint unbroken original plastic 50/1.1 hoods sell for about $2500 The much rarer metal version $3500 or more. Those prices are for the lens hood, NO lens.
Once upon a time, yes. But probably not in the current market. Recently, I've seen mint unbroken plastic ones in Japan (with correct box/pouch) for around $1,200.
Lemonsha in the Ginza has one of Tom A's NHS hoods for sale for around 85,000 yen. It's been there for at least three years ...
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
You'all in Japan have it made, especially for a Nikon freak like me!
62mm replica 1.1 hoods for under $250
Original 1.1 hood for $1250
Nikon S4 for $700-$1100
Black S3 2002 for $1500
(screams and runs to his room)
Kiu :bang:
62mm replica 1.1 hoods for under $250
Original 1.1 hood for $1250
Nikon S4 for $700-$1100
Black S3 2002 for $1500
(screams and runs to his room)
Kiu :bang:
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