Canon LTM Name variation: "Serener"?

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Canon RF experts, I'm puzzled. Was "Serener" ever used by Canon as an alternate spelling of "Serenar"? Could it be that one of the hoods in this photo is a fake? Who would bother?

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Has anyone else seen this before?

Thanks,
Ari
 
I can't see your photo because of a firewall, but if it's a 3rd party hood from Walz, Hoya, etc., it's quite possible that they either misspelled the name or wanted to avoid a trademark problem.

kermaier said:
Canon RF experts, I'm puzzled. Was "Serener" ever used by Canon as an alternate spelling of "Serenar"? Could it be that one of the hoods in this photo is a fake? Who would bother?

481757455_W2CeY-XL-1.jpg



Has anyone else seen this before?

Thanks,
Ari
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As far as I know, "Serenar" is the only spelling Canon used. The hood with "Serener" looks like a genuine Canon item, so it may just be a engraving/stamping error; if so, there may be others. (This can be done with photoshop too.)

Cheers,

David
 
CanonRFinder said:
LeicaTom It is funny you should say "Too Much Saki one night". I actually had a similar comment in my manuscript in my Serial Number chapter when I mentioned the extra digit found in some lens serial numbers. But my editor deleted it as she thought it may offend some Japanese readers...which was fair enough.

OK guys lesson over Cheers Peter
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Hello Peter!

Well, there was a gross production problem over at Leitz too sometime between Oct 1945 to April 1946 were at least 1,000 + cameras were produced with the film loading instruction plates installed upside down!!!!!!!
(adding even more confusion to the American GI loading a LTM Leica for the first time!)

Jim Lager or Any Other Big Leica Expert/Historian cannot explain the "upside down" instruction plates on these cameras, as there`s also odd engraving mistakes at Leitz as well like "Gernany" and also "Emar" lenses etc. etc.

"A little too much schnapps the night before".......most surely PROST! 😉

Tom

PS: Well, with all fun aside, I`m sure that many of the "POSTWAR" mistakes seen on cameras/lenses etc. were due to the working conditions and such, many a German or Japanese craftsman had their mind on just surviving the extremely hard times of the era, so I can easily see where little things like engravings or final mountings might go astray.......due to "lack of concentration".
 
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CanonRFinder said:
There is actually two Serenar hoods which look similar but there is a subtle variation in the "f:1.8" where the "f' is in italic form "f" and this is for the T1 lens.
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Very interesting, Peter, thanks. Pardon my ignorance, but what are "T1" and "T2" lenses? Both my hoods have the italic "f", though the "Serener" came with some sort of 42mm slip-on type Series VI adapter, that seems to be too loose to stay on my black/chrome 50/1.8.

Another engraving oddity, present on both of my hoods, is that it lists "f/1.8 50mm, f/3.2 35mm," -- note the extra comma at the end.
 
Here is a pic of the fairy "f" variation in the SERENAR 50mm f/1.8 hoods.

Hoods for 50mm f1.8 SERENAR #2.jpg


In my book I call each Canon RF lens a TYPE 1, TYPE 2, TYPE 3 etc but to make it easier when I am typing I just call them a T1 or T2 and so on. I hope that this will catch on with sellers and buyers. The slip-on hood is for the earlier chrome lenses and is a neat and tight fit. The proper hoods for the B&C lenses are a screw in version. In my book, I describe the proper hood for each lens and will correspond with my accessory book. The extra comma is just a translation during that time and today would not be correct and would grind if a teachers was looking, I guess.
 
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