Florian1234
it's just hide and seek
Hey guys,
why are there so many 35/2 Biogon ZM lenses in the classifieds these days?
why are there so many 35/2 Biogon ZM lenses in the classifieds these days?
fbf
Well-known
I am guessing:
1. non-asph summicron price is dropping (by 15-20%)
2. cv 35/1.2 , 35/1.4 are becoming more popular.
3. biogon is not ideal for people who are looking for "pocket"size combo.
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1. non-asph summicron price is dropping (by 15-20%)
2. cv 35/1.2 , 35/1.4 are becoming more popular.
3. biogon is not ideal for people who are looking for "pocket"size combo.
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Papercut
Well-known
I'd guess that fbf's post is about right. For those who value size (and/or the Leica badge), switching to summicrons as their price drops is a motivation and, for those who aren't bothered by the size of the Biogon, the CVs offer a speed increase in about the same sized package. I wouldn't let it deter you from buying a Biogon, if that's worrying you, Florian. They are wonderful lenses and now may be the time to get one at a bargain if lots of people are selling ;-)
For those who value size (and/or the Leica badge), switching to summicrons as their price drops is a motivation and, for those who aren't bothered by the size of the Biogon, the CVs offer a speed increase in about the same sized package.
Compared to the ZM Biogon 35/2, the CV Nokton 35/1.4 offers a stop increase in a noticably smaller package (the exact reason I switched from the Biogon 35/2 to the Nokton 35/1.4).
BTW there was recently a thread about the great CV Nokton 35/1.4 sell off
Papercut
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:O i've never held the Nokton -- just assumed that the extra stop meant some degree of size comparability -- my bad!
lesson being: lens fads come, lens fads go -- ignore them and use what works for you!
btw, i love that sign in your avatar jonmanjiro! too funny
lesson being: lens fads come, lens fads go -- ignore them and use what works for you!
btw, i love that sign in your avatar jonmanjiro! too funny
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capitalK
Warrior Poet :P
I just checked my bag and my 35mm f/2 Biogon is still in there. 
aizan
Veteran
I am guessing:
1. non-asph summicron price is dropping (by 15-20%)
2. cv 35/1.2 , 35/1.4 are becoming more popular.
3. biogon is not ideal for people who are looking for "pocket"size combo.
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or it's just the economy.
astroman
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Lots of gearheads here
Buy it
Try it
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Buy it
Try it
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funkaoshi
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Exactly. This is a gear forum. How many ads have you read that start with, "I bought this a couple months back from a fellow RFF member...." I think there are a ton of these for sale now, but it's probably more coincidence then anything else. A couple months back there were a ton of Hex 50s for sale. Next month it will be something else.
notturtle
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Compared to the ZM Biogon 35/2, the CV Nokton 35/1.4 offers a stop increase in a noticably smaller package (the exact reason I switched from the Biogon 35/2 to the Nokton 35/1.4).
BTW there was recently a thread about the great CV Nokton 35/1.4 sell off![]()
I think:
Economy
There are lots of ZM biogons out there so if people sell up there are lots to be sold!
Maybe, maybe, the other lenses are having an impact but I see mroe summicrons for sale than ever before too, so I don't buy that one.
There are smaller lenses out there, but arguably none that perform as well in the same price bracket. The V4 Cron is still 75-100% more than a used Biogon. The 35 1.4 CV is smaller & faster, but arguably a far less accomplished all round performer. If speed and size are the priority, then it is simple. However, I doubt this is driving the numbers on the market. The 35 1.4 has been out there long enough and has hardly set the world alight.
pevelg
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My black 35mm Biogon is on here because I just bought a second 35mm biogon, but in silver and with caps. So, technically, I am not really getting rid of my Biogon.
btw, i love that sign in your avatar jonmanjiro! too funny
hehe, thanks. its a sign in front of a restaurant in Hanoi
The 35 1.4 CV is smaller & faster, but arguably a far less accomplished all round performer. If speed and size are the priority, then it is simple. However, I doubt this is driving the numbers on the market. The 35 1.4 has been out there long enough and has hardly set the world alight.
The Biogon 35/2 is an excellent lens, but I don't know about the CV 35/1.4 being a far less accomplished performer. At f/1.4 the CV 35/1.4 is without a doubt the better lens
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Andrew Sowerby
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I've noticed the Biogon sell-off too! I'm thinking of selling mine but I'm going to wait until there aren't a couple in the classifieds already. I use 35mm so rarely I feel bad about keeping it around. The proceeds will help pay for my plane ticket to London in a couple of months.
I noticed a number for sale here, and did a little price-checking. I have one and like it well enough that I brought it as a main lens with the M8 on an overseas trip last year, no coding and no IR filter. Interesting lesson in magenta! But the pics were very pleasing otherwise!
So I just used it recently on a Hexar RF just back from repair (saleslady photo below as we shopped for lighting, ~f2.4 slow shutter), and now it's sent off for 6-bit coding along with a couple of wider ZM lenses. I think it has a very clean smooth look, and plan to keep it around despite the 1.4 Nokton SC and a new Summilux Asph.
So I just used it recently on a Hexar RF just back from repair (saleslady photo below as we shopped for lighting, ~f2.4 slow shutter), and now it's sent off for 6-bit coding along with a couple of wider ZM lenses. I think it has a very clean smooth look, and plan to keep it around despite the 1.4 Nokton SC and a new Summilux Asph.
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clicker
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So far this lens is far superior to my ability. It's hard to be satisfied with so many toys out there, but in this economy I am learning. It seems as if gear freaks ( which I include myself) are always looking for the next fix, that part of the fun of this journey.
Tim Gray
Well-known
I'm trying to sell mine because I don't use 35 much at all. I started with a 50 a couple years ago, found it was too tight. So I got a 35 and used it for a year straight. I enjoyed it a lot, but found that it was often too tight, or too wide. So I got a 28 and now use that in combination with the 50 and am very happy. The ZM 35 is an awesome lens, just the wrong focal length for me.
Uncle Bill
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I think the reality is people are unloading gear due to the current worldwide economic enema. Cool lenses are one thing, paying the rent is something else.
I would love a 35 f2 Biogon lens but can't afford it at the moment. Like a lot of other people I am between opportunities.
I would love a 35 f2 Biogon lens but can't afford it at the moment. Like a lot of other people I am between opportunities.
Florian1234
it's just hide and seek
Well, it turned out that I bought one now. It arrived yesterday (actually on monday, but the mail man came when I had to work). Looks very good, but maybe has a tiny scratch on the front element. I'm not sure. We will see.
I think I'll be happy with it.
I think I'll be happy with it.
Arvay
Obscurant
Well, it turned out that I bought one now. It arrived yesterday (actually on monday, but the mail man came when I had to work). Looks very good, but maybe has a tiny scratch on the front element. I'm not sure. We will see.
I think I'll be happy with it.
Congrats. it's a nice lens. I love mine
I remember there was a topic somewhere here with comparison of 35/2 CZ and 35/2 Cron asph. As far as I remember the comparison was in fov Biogon.
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