35mmdelux
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CV 35/1.4, Zeiss 35/2.0, Canon 35/2.0 Blacky, Leica 35/2.0 ASPH, Leica 35/1.4 ASPH.
In given price range, these are the best 35s. You choose.
In given price range, these are the best 35s. You choose.
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Anything in your gallery with the 35 Summi, or the high res Canon 35?
Anything in your gallery with the 35 Summi, or the high res Canon 35?
35mmdelux
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If you look very close, the Nokton has a little more barrel distortion, more field curvature and a bit harsher bokeh.
BUT, things like the following are simply not possible with the Summicron (due to speed in the DOF sense; here on Neopan 1600@1600):
It's a really special lens, IMO. Unless you get a Summilux ASPH, the Nokton cann't be beat, IMO.
The bokeh here is not very good.
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Roland:
Is that with
M6 or M7?
Michael
Is that with
M6 or M7?
Michael
ferider
Veteran
M6, Michael.
Agreed, Paul (Pat - on the right - didn't care though
). Still the point remains: I couldn't have done that with a cron.
Cheers,
Roland.
Agreed, Paul (Pat - on the right - didn't care though
). Still the point remains: I couldn't have done that with a cron.Cheers,
Roland.
ferider
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One more thing, Michael: here is a more systematic comparison of Summilux pre-asph, Summilux ASPH, and Nokton, in case you are interested:
http://ferider.smugmug.com/gallery/6899672_cHtWF
IMO, the Nokton performs somewhere in between the two Leica lenses.
I had an RFF thread going on this once, but took it off when the Leica bashing started ...
Roland.
http://ferider.smugmug.com/gallery/6899672_cHtWF
IMO, the Nokton performs somewhere in between the two Leica lenses.
I had an RFF thread going on this once, but took it off when the Leica bashing started ...
Roland.
35mmdelux
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The Canon 35mm/2.0 "Black" is one of the best lenses; both sharp and outstanding bokeh, and at about $400 cant be beat, except by the 35 Summilux ASP at a cost of 5x.
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Don't you think the bokeh issue stems from the 1600 ASA, leicameister?
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Roland:
I am going to spend some time carefully with the page you sent. Thanks ever so much. I think I am standing pat for now. I really like the CV35/1.4, but didn't want to have my images suffer from not getting the extra....something avaialbe from the cron.
Is there a perceptible difference with landscapes in full light at f8 or higher?
Not gonna put out for the Summilux any time soon. I like the smaller pieces, which fit in with our lifestyle when out.
Got rid of my Mamiya 645 gear for that very reason
Michael
I am going to spend some time carefully with the page you sent. Thanks ever so much. I think I am standing pat for now. I really like the CV35/1.4, but didn't want to have my images suffer from not getting the extra....something avaialbe from the cron.
Is there a perceptible difference with landscapes in full light at f8 or higher?
Not gonna put out for the Summilux any time soon. I like the smaller pieces, which fit in with our lifestyle when out.
Got rid of my Mamiya 645 gear for that very reason
Michael
ferider
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The only difference at f8 is the barrel distortion, Michael. But, IMO, it's not too bad (check the bridge pictures in the test gallery).
Me too. If I want big, I use my Hasselblad.
Cheers,
Roland.
retnull
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I recently obtained a Summicron 35 f2 version 1 (with goggles) at a price so low that you'd hate me if I mentioned what it was. I don't particuarly even like 35mm as a focal length, but this lens has a very distinctive signature: sharp and smooth at the same time. A lens this good forces me to use it...
Ben Z
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For the most part, and unless the light level is very low, I tend to shoot at f/4 or slower, so vignetting is nil on any of these lenses, and there's typically enough depth-of-field that OOF (and consequently, bokeh) is not very evident. The lenses I typically shoot wide open for subject isolation are the 50/1.4 and 90/2 (both pre-ASPH), both of which have practically no vignetting and very pleasing bokeh.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have a "new" one. It is worth $800 [to me ?????]
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sanmich
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Roland
How does your Nokton compare to the Canon 35mm f/1.5 you had?
IIRC you sold the Canon, right?
Any regrets?
How does your Nokton compare to the Canon 35mm f/1.5 you had?
IIRC you sold the Canon, right?
Any regrets?
peter_n
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Cracking pic there retnull!
thomasw_
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Get a 4th version 35mm 1:2 Summicron. You won't regret it
I agree. Check out Robert's work on Flickr with this lens. Honus is his nick.
With a version IV:>
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I personally like the wide open sharpness of the Nokton better.
Alas, the Canon is probably at my ex-wife's house amongst all the other issues...
If one of you guys wants to marry her, they can keep the Canon with the deal....and save me four large a month in the process...I could have a Noctilux by ...Memorial Day!!!
Alas, the Canon is probably at my ex-wife's house amongst all the other issues...
If one of you guys wants to marry her, they can keep the Canon with the deal....and save me four large a month in the process...I could have a Noctilux by ...Memorial Day!!!
raid
Dad Photographer
I don't think so, Michael.
I have to search in my computer to find some images from these two lenses.
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