New Yashica Film Scanner to hit Market

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Don't know if this was already mentioned, if so please ignore.
Yashica will release a new cheap 35mm film scanner - resolution is 5184x3360px if you scan at 3600 dpi, and it has a fixed lens. USB connection, apparently only for windows. Expected price to be just under ¥10.000 (80 euro/$100).

Don't know how good it will be and if it will be Japan only market, but still nice news.

http://www.yashica.jp/pro/fs-500.html
 
I like that simple design. I really want something like that for medium format film. It would make a wonderful proof/travel scanner.
 
No way

No way

tensai said:
Don't know if this was already mentioned, if so please ignore.
Yashica will release a new cheap 35mm film scanner - resolution is 5184x3360px if you scan at 3600 dpi, and it has a fixed lens. USB connection, apparently only for windows. Expected price to be just under ¥10.000 (80 euro/$100).

Don't know how good it will be and if it will be Japan only market, but still nice news.

http://www.yashica.jp/pro/fs-500.html
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WAKE UP PEOPLE! Epson can't equal those specs. in their V7x0 scanners. The folks who make scanners can say anything they like in their marketing propaganda. There are no standards that they have to abide by.
 
mich8261 said:
noticed this on Adorama's front page several weeks ago. It's great that scanners are still being released.
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There several of these vertically-oriented film scanners that have popped up recently, and they all seem to have a 5MP sensor. And from reviews, it seems that none of them are any good. The Yashica's max resolution is 3600 dpi, same as the one linked above... both have a 4-element lens, though the Yashica's lens is f/2 instead of f/6. I'm not really sure how that relates to a film scanner's performance. Several of the other similar models have an f/2 lens.

I wouldn't be surprised if this used a lot of the same parts as the other scanners, and I wouldn't expect much from it. They seem to be aimed at average users who have a lot of old negatives they want to scan.

http://www.amazon.com/Ion-Photo-Neg...=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1237311041&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/VuPoint-FS-C1...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1237311041&sr=8-11
http://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-F2D...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1237311041&sr=8-12
 
They seem to be aimed at average users who have a lot of old negatives they want to scan.
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That is what would be called "the market" for new consumer film scanners; expect to see more cheapies like this http://tinyurl.com/cu2zue and nothing for serious photographers.

The cheapies all suck because they are too slow for high volume work and don't perform well enough for anything approaching fine art scanning.

I bought a Pakon to do my old color negatives and it is perfect for the job, blisteringly fast and simple. But it won't make anybody looking for ultimate quality even a little bit happy.

Scanners are the black hole of the entire imaging industry. I can't think of a single product type in the digital era that has been more disappointing.
 
I've looked for someone online who has dismantled one or even used one, because I was wondering if these weren't just 5mp duplicating cameras rather than scanners. Remember those things that used to mount on the front of a lens to allow cheap slide duplication? Not that the design would be a bad thing. A slide shot with a 5D might look pretty good. But it isn't really a scanner. Just a digital duplicating camera. Splitting hairs I guess really but just wondering....
 
venchka said:
WAKE UP PEOPLE! Epson can't equal those specs. in their V7x0 scanners. The folks who make scanners can say anything they like in their marketing propaganda. There are no standards that they have to abide by.
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Actually, the epson v700/v750's do a respectable 3200ppi, even 3600ppi. More than good enough for a high quality 8x10 from 35mm, even 11x14 if you push it. Their biggest weakness is in film flatness. The advantage of the epson flatbed over a dedicated film scanner like a nikon 5000/9000 is the flexibility.

The Epson products are the scanner equivalent of Cosina Voigtlander lenses.
Not as good as the best, but reasonable quality in an affordable package.

(And no, I don't work for epson, But I've had good success with most of their products that I have owned.)
 
Has anybody tried using a homemade glass carrier with an Epson or Canon flatbed? I'm thinking of kludging something together to help with the flatness issue.
 
Yeah, looks suspiciously like the other $99 "scanners" recently seen all over the place.
I wonder if the white plastic improves performance? ;)

Chris
 
They have a display shelf full of these scanners at my local Wal Mart for $39.00. I bought one but I haven't used it yet. I have to install a 2.0 usb port in this old computer. Look at your local WalMart near the camera section they might have them. 39 bucks is pretty cheap.
 
5:00 PM said:
Has anybody tried using a homemade glass carrier with an Epson or Canon flatbed? I'm thinking of kludging something together to help with the flatness issue.
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I seem to recall some company offering glass carriers for Epson flatbeds as well as others but can't remember who..

Maybe someone out there will refresh my memory..
 
jke said:
I've looked for someone online who has dismantled one or even used one, because I was wondering if these weren't just 5mp duplicating cameras rather than scanners. Remember those things that used to mount on the front of a lens to allow cheap slide duplication? Not that the design would be a bad thing. A slide shot with a 5D might look pretty good. But it isn't really a scanner. Just a digital duplicating camera. Splitting hairs I guess really but just wondering....
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It's not splitting hairs. 5MP shot with a (non foveon) digital camera is not the same as 5MP RGB scan. With the scan each pixel naturally has all three color channels, i.e. it's a "real" pixel. which is not the case with the Bayer interpolation sensor.
 
venchka said:
WAKE UP PEOPLE! Epson can't equal those specs. in their V7x0 scanners. The folks who make scanners can say anything they like in their marketing propaganda. There are no standards that they have to abide by.
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Even the cheapest dedicated 35mm scanners can run around medium-level flatbeds without sweating when it comes to resolution. Yes, it's entirely possible to have honest 3600 dpi out of those things. More serious problem there is typically low dynamic range..
 
Has anybody tried using a homemade glass carrier with an Epson or Canon flatbed? I'm thinking of kludging something together to help with the flatness issue.
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Its easy in principle, I just taped a small glass plate from an obsolete slides format (4x4?) directly onto the plate, with the negative in between. The problem though, is newton rings... Probably the easiest and best is using scanning fluid - then you also get an overall result that is better I have heard.

Flatbeds are too cumbersome I think, right now I am very happy with my odd Epson F3200...

I really wonder if something like a D5 combined with a really good macro lens would do a good job?
 
at what price?

at what price?

varjag said:
Even the cheapest dedicated 35mm scanners can run around medium-level flatbeds without sweating when it comes to resolution. Yes, it's entirely possible to have honest 3600 dpi out of those things. More serious problem there is typically low dynamic range..
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Not for $100 from Yashica.
 
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