Canon G10 or Ricoh Caplio GX 200

[marco.margavat]

I'm looking for a compact digital camera for street photography. I'm trying to find some informations about Canon G10 and Ricoh GX 200.

What do you think about the Canon and the Ricoh in street photography ? Which one I should buy ? :bang:

 

[sevo]

Both are feature-rich and can make excellent pictures, provided enough light. The GX200 is much smaller, strong on the wide-angle side, optimized for easy manual operation, and can be equipped with a electronic finder, but seems to be somewhat vulnerable to dust. The G10 is rather beyond the carrying capacity of a shirt pocket, has less good handling on all-manual settings, is tuned for normal to slight tele habits, features a optical finder, and is overall more robust.

Personally, I went over to a GX100 after several Canon G's and Powershot Sx0es, for its wide centric concept and manual ergonomics, and am perfectly happy with it - but it is a matter of personal preference.

Sevo

 

[Tuolumne]

Take a serious look at the soon-to-be-released Sigma DP-2

/T

 

[jmg1911]

Don't know the Ricoh, but here's a vote for the G10. 28mm is wide enough for me and the image quality is outstanding. shirtpocket, no: pantspocket, easy. I find the optical viewfinder a great advantage even though it doesn't show the whole frame it does adjust rather well for parallax. I sometimes scout the shot with the display and shoot, if necessary, with the viewfinder.

 

[marco.margavat]

Yes, I decided: Sigma DP2 with viewfinder and lens hood.

 

[Michiel Fokkema]

Panasonic LX3.
Wider and faster lens, bigger sensor = less noise, dynamic b&w mode.
Best P&S available at this moment.
The bigger sensor and faster lens gives you about 2 stops advantage over the G10 and GX200

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

 

[sojournerphoto]

Ricoh or Pana LX3 - I think the Canon G's are a bit big for that sort of thing for me.

Mike

 

[VladimirV]

The GX200 is much smaller, strong on the wide-angle side, optimized for easy manual operation, and can be equipped with a electronic finder, but seems to be somewhat vulnerable to dust.

The dust problem has been resolved on the GX200, it only happened with the GX100.

The GX200 gets my vote since it is smaller and has the best handling and controls, with the snap AF mode and step zoom it is perfect for street photography. The only real downside for me is that at high ISO it is not very good.

Even better for street photography is the Ricoh GRD I, has a very fast AF and great b&w mode with usable ISO 1600. The fixed 28mm lens might be a problem but you can buy adapters for 21mm and 40mm. The slow RAW write times are the only real downside but the JPGs are good enough so there is no real need for RAW.

The G10 is just too big for me.

I have wrote a review on the GX200 on my wordpress blog (see signature) if you are interested.

 

[ruben]

Why should anyone looking for a digi for street photography want any camera without an eyefinder at least like those in the film Canon Rebels ? Ok, single spot AF, but at least 95% of the image.

Beyond my mind, kindly enligthen me.

Cheers,
Ruben

 

[M4streetshooter]

Get a DP1 or a DP2 or better yet.
both......nuttin' better.
Forget the pocket crap....on the street the camera needs
to be in your hand....
shooter

 

[Dave Wilkinson]

Why should anyone looking for a digi for street photography want any camera without an eyefinder at least like those in the film Canon Rebels ? Ok, single spot AF, but at least 95% of the image.

Beyond my mind, kindly enligthen me.

Cheers,
Ruben

The G10 does have an optical finder, and I think most users would fit a accessory finder to the shoe, on the others.
Cheers, Dave.

 

[ruben]

The G10 does have an optical finder, and I think most users would fit a accessory finder to the shoe, on the others.
Cheers, Dave.

Hi Dave,
I do not mean it personally against you, but perhaps we should send Canon some flowers in the name of the customers. Thanks for the optical finder !

Now, I would like to know from any user/owner of the g10 that big secret that is carefully hidden in all specifications of all manufacturers of digis under $1000, and I am already exhausted in my investigations about: What can you really do with that specific viewfincer (eyefinder for the sake of digital clarity).

Can you AF through it ? Thank you ! (and perhaps more flowers). Now how small is the AF spot ? Is it small enough like in the old film Canon Rebels ?

Can you even really manually focus with the accuracy of any camera before the invention of AF ? (That canon oversized MF square is a useless pathetic joke, unless you know beforehand the exact distance to the subject. Visually it doesn't work.

And here we arrive to the end of the tour. No more flowers, no usable eyefinder . The street photographer is back to analog cameras, or to his poor man Leicas.

Cheers,
Ruben

 

[kshapero]

The Gx200 is with me 100% of the time. 24-72 is just right for me. But warning you need Noise Ninja for this rig.

 

[mackigator]

I own an Lx3 and I get to play with a G10 from an office mate. I think the G10 fits in a pocket just as well, maybe better because of the lack of protruding lens. The G10 definitely wins for easier to hold, though the Pany wins on a few other areas (fast lens, low light, image ratios).

The size debate between the LX3 and its competitors is definitely overblown, IMHO.

 

[fredsters_s]

I own a G10 and shoot street, and I'm really happy it. Not sure what people who find it too big are smoking - it's tiny! Smaller than a Leica. Yes, it has a poor viewfinder. But it's usable - and I vastly prefer composing with a viewfinder to using the screen at the back. You get basically infinite DOF at most apertures with these camera anyway, so focussing isn't really something you'll have to worry about. Also, it's built like a tank, which will be useful for swinging at on-street aggressors!

 

[kbg32]

Ricoh hands down. The G10 is too slow - shutter lag.