santino
FSU gear head
ok people. guys are gearheads and care about what camera they are using, what lens etc.
BUT
girls are usually NOT only interested in the result but also, how a camera looks like. the problem is, that most cameras look almost the same. there is a lack of "lady-cameras", like there are certain cars, you would call "designed for females". a toy camera looks different, sometimes creative and cute. There is a need for "personalized camera", and I don't mean $$$$ engraved Leicas
BUT
girls are usually NOT only interested in the result but also, how a camera looks like. the problem is, that most cameras look almost the same. there is a lack of "lady-cameras", like there are certain cars, you would call "designed for females". a toy camera looks different, sometimes creative and cute. There is a need for "personalized camera", and I don't mean $$$$ engraved Leicas
axiom
Non-Registered User
to OP:
please don't put "Toy" and "Sex" in the same line as in the title. That triggers imagination...
and I think "gender" would be better used.
please don't put "Toy" and "Sex" in the same line as in the title. That triggers imagination...
and I think "gender" would be better used.
Bob Michaels
nobody special
On a more realistic note, several years ago a female friend who is a well exhibited documentary photographer (much more insightful than I) asked me for an equipment suggestion saying that I was much more "into cameras" than she. She said that she felt her high end camera gear was getting in the way of her photography and wanted a camera suggestion for a upcoming photo documentary trip to Cuba. I knew she shot with a Mamiya 7 and Nikon SLR but also knew the way she thought.
I recommended (actually loaned her) and Olympus Stylus Epic with a fixed lens and suggested she buy iso 400 color film. She came back from Cuba saying "That's it! I can think about my photos and not the camera." Her Cuban photo series has been well received.
Now that is just a singular example but I find very few females who are not more interested in the final photographic result than in the technicalities of getting there. I do think the females are ahead of the males in that regard.
I recommended (actually loaned her) and Olympus Stylus Epic with a fixed lens and suggested she buy iso 400 color film. She came back from Cuba saying "That's it! I can think about my photos and not the camera." Her Cuban photo series has been well received.
Now that is just a singular example but I find very few females who are not more interested in the final photographic result than in the technicalities of getting there. I do think the females are ahead of the males in that regard.
K14
Well-known
Some of the low-tech cameras have many intestring options now days. My Diana clone can shoot 35, 120 and Fuji instant. Rumors have a planned knock off digital back with so called flavor modes like Kodachrome and Trix-X, flavors, what the heck!? As far as lenses we have the pinhole, normal, wide, micro and fisheye. Hey, with those options, how could one resist? The only camera I have that has these kind of options is my Improved Seneca 8x10, comes with a modified 5x7 and 4x5 back. Could take a Graflex 120 back as well. Not too bad for a low-tech "Plastic Cameras" 
Sparrow
Veteran
I read all that and he actually meant to say “Toy Cameras and Gender” 
M4cr0s
Back In Black
I have a sneaking suspicion that back when animal skins where the height of fashion and wooden spears with flint heads the bleeding edge of technology, the men huddled together by the fire, drinking/eating some fermented fruit and discussed the various kinds of spear and arrow heads, their angles, shapes, production techniques and so forth. The women however, where busy feeding brats, stirring the pot, making clothes and so forth. Women never had a chance to sit down and fuss over details, results was all that counted for them.
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user237428934
User deletion pending
Just noodling along Twitter, looking for people to follow, and I think I've noticed something.
It seems to me that a very high percentage of Holga/Diana/other such camera users are women. Not a scientific observation to be sure, but certainly the female/male ratio is much higher than I've noticed in places like RFF.
I know I'm a horrible sexist for indulging in generalities, but it has always seemed to me that female photographers, on the whole, were less gear oriented and more results oriented.
Could it be that low-tech cameras are more appealing to the female sex?
Why not. Most of the selfpics on the web are done by woman. Most of the Photoshop-work of combining pictures and textures are done by woman. Why shouldn't women be drawn to a certain type of camera.
Jamie123
Veteran
This thread would probably make a good case for gender studies. The topic at hand is pretty similar to the usual discussion whether or not boys are better at maths and girls are better at languages/art in school.
The implication here of course being that women have some sort of shortcoming when it comes to technical understanding of complex devices and that men are generally emotional retards. Of course no one says this and instead everyone starts saying that the actual reason why toy cameras are popular with women is because they are so much smarter than men.
I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument of cameras as phallic symbols yet. I guess I just did
The implication here of course being that women have some sort of shortcoming when it comes to technical understanding of complex devices and that men are generally emotional retards. Of course no one says this and instead everyone starts saying that the actual reason why toy cameras are popular with women is because they are so much smarter than men.
I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument of cameras as phallic symbols yet. I guess I just did
ZeissFan
Veteran
I would say that when it comes to mechanical devices, women wants things to work, and men are fascinated by gadgetry.
That's just a generalization.
That's just a generalization.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Well not what I was expecting from the title. sigh.
Gary E
Well-known
FWIW, the only 2 Holgas I've seen in Taiwan so far were used by women. They even had the black gaffers tape all around the corners. One women even came up to me and asked where I got my TLR.
I don't think they're hung up on gear as men are as she didn't even ask me about the M4-2 hanging off my other shoulder
I don't think they're hung up on gear as men are as she didn't even ask me about the M4-2 hanging off my other shoulder
amateriat
We're all light!
Sometimes, Jamie, a telephoto lens is just a telephoto lens.I'm surprised no one has brought up the argument of cameras as phallic symbols yet. I guess I just did![]()
- Barrett
mike kim
Established
I know more women than men who are into a) Toy cameras and b) TLRs.
Check The Girl with a TLR Pool at Flickr.
Check The Girl with a TLR Pool at Flickr.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
And only this weekend I saw a violently pink Holga on the shelves of a 'hip' store. You know, the Lomography kind. Didn't check out what it cost, but probably too much.
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
Urban Outfitters are known to stock Dianas and Holgas, along with the latest urban chichi clothing. And film.
Perhaps guys would be more apt to lean toward toy cameras if they were arrayed alongside the power tools at Home Depot or Harbor Freight Tools.
~Joe
Perhaps guys would be more apt to lean toward toy cameras if they were arrayed alongside the power tools at Home Depot or Harbor Freight Tools.
~Joe
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