More film than Tom ?

More film than TomA - no way 🙂

More film than TomA - no way 🙂

Chris,
it speaks volumes for your sound (gut) judgment that you phrased the title of your post as a question. While 1 million meters of film - at first - sounds more than TomA ever could be harboring, a quick and unprejudiced look at the facts will show that this stash of APX amounts to no more than a mouse's tail in comparison to Mr. B.'s "black (and white) cat-a(na)logue!
Ah, you will say: but surely there is no room for 1 million meters of film in the Mr. B. household, is there?
Well that may be so - but who can count the feline friends and companions Mr. B. has all over the world? And surely every cat worth its whiskers has unquestioned control over a sizable part of its "owners'" freezer! There you have it. All the hundred feet rolls, bricks, canisters and what not of film in hundreds of thousands cat-controlled freezers all over the world make this measly million look like a short-end ;-)

Greetings, Hannes 🙂
 
OK. one million meters is more than I have - but he is reselling it. Now, if he set out to shoot it all - that would be impressive! OK, he would need a lot of IXMOO's though and the thought of loading 700 000+ IXMOO's is rather dauntng>
 
That's a thousand kilometers of APX100 35mm film ... I'm stunned!

Imagine how much Tri-X kodak must have on hand at any given moment ... I'm beginning to supect that Freestyle will be selling Arista Premium for a long, long time! 😛
 
Journeyman said:
Don't tell everyone! I'm buying as much of the stuff as I can fit in the freezer. I might even get a bar-sized freezer just for the stuff to keep the Boss happy!

Tom, how well will it keep? My domestic freezer is about -18C. What happens to conventional B&W film over time?
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With slower film you are reasonably safe for 7-10 years. Medium speed can show some fog after 5-6 years, but nothing that would impede using it. Fast films 800 asa+ are more sensitive = and I tend to give at the most 2-3 years beyond expiry date.
This said, I have developed films that are 10-20 years out of expiry date with little or no ill effects (rating them at posted speed or slightly less), Once it gets beyond that - it is a good idea to test as speed drops and fog builds up.
 
Chris101 said:
If I had that much film, I'd want a Hulcher!
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I used to rent Hulchers for specific projects (tracking 18 foot wide paper going at 30mph through a newsprint machine - strobes for "freezing" movement).
Problem with Hulchers is not the speed - it is the fact that you get 4000 negatives with virtually no difference between them . Finding the "key" sequence usually required days of peering with a loupe at 20ft long strips on custom light tables (ten strips of 22 ft lengths!!! - all looking the same).
Nice sound though when the camera wound up to speed. Interesting trivia - all the ones I rented came with Micro Nikkor 55f3.5's. I asked why and they said - there is nothing better out there!
 
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Tom A said:
With slower film you are reasonably safe for 7-10 years. Medium speed can show some fog after 5-6 years, but nothing that would impede using it. Fast films 800 asa+ are more sensitive = and I tend to give at the most 2-3 years beyond expiry date.
This said, I have developed films that are 10-20 years out of expiry date with little or no ill effects (rating them at posted speed or slightly less), Once it gets beyond that - it is a good idea to test as speed drops and fog builds up.
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Thanks, I have been looking for a more expert opinion, I have cleaned out the 1966 fridge, and am looking for something to replace, or I may just turn off the heat in the house for the winter and wait for the Spring to find a sale. I may as well put a large red dot on the door?

Do you see a lot of difference in specific temperature? I am pretty sure I will give up on the high speed stuff I pried out of the frost in the old freezer section as I figure the Cosmic Rays have taken care of them, and I really do not use the 800 plus stuff, I don't think slipping it in with Ted Williams would help it.

I do have a few bricks of the Agfa 25 purchased as it was discontinued. The IFF from the 60's (stored in a fridge of the same vintage) is promised to my friend Jan in Berlin. ;-)

John
 
I wonder just how many computer wanker digifreaks are out there pounding out code so they can get the look of "expired in 1974 and stored at 35c the entire time" Tri-X out of their M8 Leicas? I can't wait for the first edition of The Massive Screw-Up-Your-Film Chart.
 
JohnTF said:
Do you see a lot of difference in specific temperature? I am pretty sure I will give up on the high speed stuff I pried out of the frost in the old freezer section as I figure the Cosmic Rays have taken care of them, and I really do not use the 800 plus stuff, I don't think slipping it in with Ted Williams would help it.

I do have a few bricks of the Agfa 25 purchased as it was discontinued. The IFF from the 60's (stored in a fridge of the same vintage) is promised to my friend Jan in Berlin. ;-)

John
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I havent seen any difference by freezer temperature. Your APX 25 will do fine - it is slow enough to be resistant.
The IFF could be used - just half the iso and add a bit of anti-fog (benzotriazole) and shoot away.
I still have a 150ft roll of SO 115 - the predecessor to Tech Pan. No date stamp but I think it dates to 1979. I have used some of it - and if I keep it at 12 iso it works fine (Rodinal 1:100/15 min or Rodinal 1:150 for 20 min).
I also have a couple of ice covered Pan F 100 ft cans at the back end of the freezer - one of these summers I will un-freeze them and shoot them. Usually holds up very well.
The idea of storing film in the house and turn of the heat is not bad. You can get a lot of film in that way!
 
It's amazing how long film lasts for. I have a few 100' rolls of XP1 (not XP2 or XP2 Super) from 1981 - shot them at EI100 and although foggy -

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A few years ago I found an EXPOSED 126 film at my grandma's house.
I managed to process it and about half the pictures were good. Pictures of my aunt and my grandparents.
30 years did these latent images waited for processing. I was amazed...
 
Tom A said:
Nah, just shoot it - rate it at 250 and do D76 1:1 for 11-12 min. Bound to be some fog - but you can scan or print through it.
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Hmm, thanks for the developing tip Tom. Coincidentally my usual developer is ID11 1+1, so that will be the same thing as a starting point. I'll see how it goes.
 
Tom A said:
I havent seen any difference by freezer temperature. Your APX 25 will do fine - it is slow enough to be resistant.
The IFF could be used - just half the iso and add a bit of anti-fog (benzotriazole) and shoot away.
I still have a 150ft roll of SO 115 - the predecessor to Tech Pan. No date stamp but I think it dates to 1979. I have used some of it - and if I keep it at 12 iso it works fine (Rodinal 1:100/15 min or Rodinal 1:150 for 20 min).
I also have a couple of ice covered Pan F 100 ft cans at the back end of the freezer - one of these summers I will un-freeze them and shoot them. Usually holds up very well.
The idea of storing film in the house and turn of the heat is not bad. You can get a lot of film in that way!
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Well, we are getting help from you guys, the polar front is extending your country's cold air and we expect snow tomorrow or the next day.

Have you seen much difference between frozen and film kept with the milk?

I lost a lot of a beautiful Czech photo paper, but I had imported 5000 sheets, sold some, used some, and have no idea what abuse it suffered during the air freight. It did look as if they thought kicking it was easier than picking it up.

A few people who bought some also thought it was some of the best paper they had used, it was Karton Weight, on a warm tone base.

J
 
JohnTF said:
Well, we are getting help from you guys, the polar front is extending your country's cold air and we expect snow tomorrow or the next day.

Have you seen much difference between frozen and film kept with the milk?

I lost a lot of a beautiful Czech photo paper, but I had imported 5000 sheets, sold some, used some, and have no idea what abuse it suffered during the air freight. It did look as if they thought kicking it was easier than picking it up.

A few people who bought some also thought it was some of the best paper they had used, it was Karton Weight, on a warm tone base.

J
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John, we are happy to export our cold air -Canada has an excess of it. Now we have to find a market for our West Coast rain too.
 
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