Pre-Ashp 35/1.4 Summilux vs Voigtlander on M8

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Hello RFF,

I need input on which 35mm lens to chose for my M8.

I am currently using a 35 Summilux (pre asph) which is pretty soft at 1.4. How do the Voigtlander offerings compare?

The asph summilux is out of my budget unfortunately.

Thanks!
 
35mm Summilux Pre Aspherical wide open at f1.4 on the M8, I think this is a magical lens!

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I've searched a lot about this, and most people agree that the nokton is sharper than the old summilux, and is less prone to flare. It does however have pretty busy bokeh, and serious focus shift issues.
 
Hey no problem, I can remove the pics if necessary, just let me know. I thought they might be useful to other readers as they are shot on an M8 wide open...

I've never used the Nokton but have seen plenty of results from it. I agree that the bokeh is harsh with a strange circular "coke bottle bottom" thing going on... Not to my taste but hey...

Do let me know if you want those pics removed...😉
 
🙂

The pre-asph shifts too, like all pre-asph 'luxes (50 & 75). The Noctilux as well. Except nobody writes about it.
 
Simon : No need, the pics are great and it is an excellent example of the pre-asph's glow 🙂
The Nokton is definitely sharper, but then you do lose the nice glow and soft bokeh 🙁

MCTuomey : Why though? XD

Ferider : True, although I think the reason why the nokton gets so much attention about it is because it also has backfocusing (or was it front focus?) issues on top of the shifting. Atleast that's my understanding after reading Sean's opinions about it on LUF, based on multiple samples.
 
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ashrafazlan, the two I that have (SC & MC) are dead on, wide open and at min. focus, measured with film however.

Somebody else here once commented that Sean used a bad (his) copy that was later replaced by Stephen. Forgot the member name.
 
actually he went through several

actually he went through several

then just gave up.

The owners of the first two or three lenses Sean tested posted on getdpi as of yesterday, and they think it's a good lens value, despite the mega focus shifts relative to a Leica lens.

It is the 35 ASPH Leica with the built-in shift.

ferider said:
ashrafazlan, the two I that have (SC & MC) are dead on, wide open and at min. focus, measured with film however.

Somebody else here once commented that Sean used a bad (his) copy that was later replaced by Stephen. Forgot the member name.
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It's too bad though, I wouldn't mind being locked at 1.4 if it meant the oof areas were a bit smoother like it's bigger brother the 1.2
 
It's all about the glow. If you want glow then go with the pre-asph. I can spot a pre-asph picture straight away. I like mine. I only wish it also focused to 0.7 meters instead of roughly 0.9 meters.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread a bit..

By 35mm f1.4 pre-asp summilux do you mean the leitz summilux 1.4 35mm ? Or is there one actually labled Leica?

OP: I can't comment on the 35mm 1.4 nokton but I have the 40mm 1.4 nokton. It's a quite nice lense but the bokeh (as with most cv's?) tends to be on the harsh side.
 
nksyoon,

The bokeh in the last shot is sore on my eye's!

I have a 35 S.C. and have never seen bokeh like that (with film) but then I'm not a very good photographer!


What is this 'focus shift' people are talking about? I'm considering a 35 lux pre-asph against a v4 or 3 cron.
 
mgd711 said:
nksyoon,

The bokeh in the last shot is sore on my eye's!

I have a 35 S.C. and have never seen bokeh like that (with film) but then I'm not a very good photographer!
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Try taking an out of focus picture of a lot of bicycles with shiny parts!


mgd711 said:
What is this 'focus shift' people are talking about? I'm considering a 35 lux pre-asph against a v4 or 3 cron.
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When focused on the same point, the plane of focus moves depending on which aperture is used. So an object may be sharp using f1.4, but slightly out of focus using f4.
 
ashrafazlan said:
MCTuomey : Why though? XD
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One reason: internet chatter about focus shift problems helps to keep the price of such lenses within my budget. i thank the photographic gods for this phenomenon. it may be that it is the leicaphiles way of making non-leica lenses less costly for silly people like me who like to make pictures but are in principle and pocketbook averse to paying > USD1000 for lenses. noblesse oblige, from the likes of ted and others, perhaps?

Another reason, far more important: some mighty fine glass exhibits focus shift.
 
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