NickTrop
Veteran
Constitution Day: November 26, 2009
Constitution Day is a public holiday in Mongolia.
Mongolians celebrate on November 26 the creation of the constitution of Mongolia as a Republic in 1924. Ending the 17th century, most of Mongolia was ruled by the Qing Dynasty. During the collapse of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, Mongolians declared independence from China. However, Mongolia still had to wait and fight until 1921 to establish its official independence, and until 1924 to proclaim itself as a Republic.
http://aglobalworld.com/holidays-around-the-world/mongolia-constitution-day/
Constitution Day is a public holiday in Mongolia.
Mongolians celebrate on November 26 the creation of the constitution of Mongolia as a Republic in 1924. Ending the 17th century, most of Mongolia was ruled by the Qing Dynasty. During the collapse of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, Mongolians declared independence from China. However, Mongolia still had to wait and fight until 1921 to establish its official independence, and until 1924 to proclaim itself as a Republic.
http://aglobalworld.com/holidays-around-the-world/mongolia-constitution-day/
Dave Wilkinson
Veteran
No sh*t!
NickTrop
Veteran
Yep. I choose to celebrate Mongolian Constitution Day, rather than the American tradition of Thanksgiving, a holiday I find truly disgusting... The genocide of the American Indian - and our the mythology surrounding it - "turkey with the Indians..." I think of as their "last supper". It's horrific, certainly nothing to celebrate. And if you say we're this meal, not "genocide" we're celebrating "BS". How do we celebrate? By stuffing our faces with excess food, gluttony, as 1/3 of the world starves.
Here's a good article:
Why I Hate Thanksgiving
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-cohen271103.htm
Cristopher Columbus: "They brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned. They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features. They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of sugar cane. They would make fine servants. With 50 men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."
"The Indians are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone." Columbus concluded his report by asking for a little help from the King and Queen, and in return he would bring them "as much gold as they need, and as many slaves as they ask."
Columbus returned to the New World -- "new" for Europeans, that is -- with 17 ships and more than 1,200 men. Their aim was clear: Slaves, and gold.
Columbus's men murdered more than 100,000 Indians on Haiti alone. Overall, dying as slaves in the mines, or directly murdered, or from diseases brought to the Caribbean by the Spaniards, over 3 million Indian people were murdered between 1494 and 1508.
What Columbus did to the Arawaks of the Bahamas and the Taino of the Caribbean, Cortez did to the Aztecs of Mexico, Pizarro to the Incas of Peru, and the English settlers of Virginia and Massachusetts to the Powhatans and the Pequots. Literally millions of native peoples were slaughtered. And the gold, slaves and other resources were used, in Europe, to spur the growth of the new money economy rising out of feudalism. Karl Marx would later call this "the primitive accumulation of capital." These were the violent beginnings of an intricate system of technology, business, politics and culture that would dominate the world for the next five centuries.
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-cohen271103.htm
So, Happy Mongolian Constitution Day, all...
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Here's a good article:
Why I Hate Thanksgiving
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-cohen271103.htm
Cristopher Columbus: "They brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned. They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features. They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of sugar cane. They would make fine servants. With 50 men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."
"The Indians are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone." Columbus concluded his report by asking for a little help from the King and Queen, and in return he would bring them "as much gold as they need, and as many slaves as they ask."
Columbus returned to the New World -- "new" for Europeans, that is -- with 17 ships and more than 1,200 men. Their aim was clear: Slaves, and gold.
Columbus's men murdered more than 100,000 Indians on Haiti alone. Overall, dying as slaves in the mines, or directly murdered, or from diseases brought to the Caribbean by the Spaniards, over 3 million Indian people were murdered between 1494 and 1508.
What Columbus did to the Arawaks of the Bahamas and the Taino of the Caribbean, Cortez did to the Aztecs of Mexico, Pizarro to the Incas of Peru, and the English settlers of Virginia and Massachusetts to the Powhatans and the Pequots. Literally millions of native peoples were slaughtered. And the gold, slaves and other resources were used, in Europe, to spur the growth of the new money economy rising out of feudalism. Karl Marx would later call this "the primitive accumulation of capital." These were the violent beginnings of an intricate system of technology, business, politics and culture that would dominate the world for the next five centuries.
http://www.countercurrents.org/us-cohen271103.htm
So, Happy Mongolian Constitution Day, all...
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35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
Thanksgiving remains one of my favorite holidays. I have no connection to the genocide that occurred during the Conquest or the genocide occurring in many reaches of the world today.
BTW is Mongolia free or puppet state of China?
BTW is Mongolia free or puppet state of China?
NickTrop
Veteran
You can choose to "look the other way" or deal with the reality. This is a tradition whose origins are in the genocide of a people whose descendants still suffer, greatly, the repercussions of, centuries after their slaughter. We celebrate it with gluttony. It is the height of Western ignorance and arrogance.
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NickTrop
Veteran
Since this is a photography blog...
http://www.wallpapersphotography.com/history/american-indian-art/02/american-indian.jpg
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In memory...
http://www.wallpapersphotography.com/history/american-indian-art/02/american-indian.jpg
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In memory...
peter_n
Veteran
I think 1924 was the establishment of the People's Republic in Cambodia. Not particularly something to celebrate...
Ken Shipman
Well-known
I plan to enjoy the day with my family.
I promise we will not abuse Native Americans, Mongolians, Cambodians, or anyone else.
And I sincerely, deeply apologize for the abuses of the past.
Peace.
I promise we will not abuse Native Americans, Mongolians, Cambodians, or anyone else.
And I sincerely, deeply apologize for the abuses of the past.
Peace.
outfitter
Well-known
Well I've spent a bit of time in Mongolia and they are great but tough people; they certainly have their own history starting with the butchering of people from the coast of the Sea of Japan to the gates of Vienna and ending with their service as shock troops for the Soviets (just the folk to use to put down rebellious Hungarians and Czechs). The independence they celebrate was becoming a Communist puppet of the Soviet - sort of from the frying pan into the fire.
Certainly no one in Mongolia would understanbd soemone who wrings his hands over history or hates his country.
Certainly no one in Mongolia would understanbd soemone who wrings his hands over history or hates his country.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I believe there are a lot of other places (online and off) that one can use to pound one's chest to proclaim a dislike (or like for that matter) of one thing or another.
Here, last time I checked, it was all about photography and specifically Rangefinder cameras.
Relax, enjoy the day off, and reflect on how you can make the world a better place.
Cheers,
Dave
Here, last time I checked, it was all about photography and specifically Rangefinder cameras.
Relax, enjoy the day off, and reflect on how you can make the world a better place.
Cheers,
Dave
Dave Wilkinson
Veteran
Ken Shipman
Well-known
Have you ever heard Stan Freberg Presents The United States of America? He has something interesting to say about most sacrosanct American observences, including Thanksgiving and the Boston Tea Party. Very unique and very funny. I highly recommend it, esp for Brits.Well I can't get over all our tea going in Boston harbour!
Dave.
BTW, that's harbor, not harbour.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Have you ever heard Stan Freberg Presents The United States of America? He has something interesting to say about most sacrosanct American observences, including Thanksgiving and the Boston Tea Party. Very unique and very funny. I highly recommend it, esp for Brits.
BTW, that's harbor, not harbour.
No, I think Americans could still spell in those days...
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
But yes, I'll drink to Mongolian Constitutional Day! Anything's better than eating intensively raised turkey, at any time of year.
Cheers,
R.
Sparrow
Veteran
Well I can't get over all our tea going in Boston harbour!
Dave.
Salt in one's tea ... truly aberrant sir! bloody colonials
outfitter
Well-known
In Mongolia they add both salt and Yak butter to their tea so that clinches it for Mongolian Independence Day
steamer
Well-known
Funny, I forgot Thanksgiving but I didn't forget Mongolian National Day and since this forum is about range finder photography and the bags we carry our cameras in, here is a photo of a statue of the man himself, Chinggis K.
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