Another for Joe's list.
I would like to see images using the camera and lens, no IR Cut Filter.
I would like to see images using the camera and lens, no IR Cut Filter.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Me too. I'm an impending M8 shooter and would like to think they're less important than we hear. It's hard to believe it's too bad when somebody who shoots as much as Sean Reid didn't even notice it until other people started complaining.
Jeicob
Amateur
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
That's very extreme!
BTW, my post might have given the impression that I doubt the veracity of this phenomenon. I don't, of course--I just wonder how often it's a problem in regular use, especially if, like me, you shoot black and white more than half the time.
BTW, my post might have given the impression that I doubt the veracity of this phenomenon. I don't, of course--I just wonder how often it's a problem in regular use, especially if, like me, you shoot black and white more than half the time.
Cron
Well-known
take a look into my flickr/m8 - all these night shots are done without uv/ir
miklosphoto
Member
Here are my to examples. For me the filter is critical as I 99% of my photos include people and it is still very common to wear synthetic fabrics.
miklosphoto
Member
Here is another with and without filter:
miklosphoto
Member
The above two sample photos were done with and without a B+W 486 cut filter. It is a cheaper alternative to the Leica made filters. Works just fine.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I'll probably get a few of those eventually.
Does the filter affect sharpness/resolution?
Some dramatic examples. The problem with the M8 appears more extreme than on my old Kodak DCS420c.
miklosphoto
Member
Not any more than any other UV filter. The B+W is very high quality glass. And the M8 sensor is so sharp that I have never seen sharpness deterioration.
fbf
Well-known
Yeah, get the b+w instead of leica. It is cheaper and better.
ampguy
Veteran
In our household of 4, we have a couple of pieces of sweaters/jackets where the synthetics show up as magenta without the cut filters. I keep them handy, but don't use them by default or for bw. They can create or increase flare depending on the lighting.
I have a mix of Leica and BW 486 for most sizes, haven't noticed any differences.
I have a mix of Leica and BW 486 for most sizes, haven't noticed any differences.
Makten
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You need to know when the filter is a must. It depends on the lighting and the subject.
Can you see any IR "artefacts" in these photos?
The first one is with Summicron-C 40/2 and the second with CV 28/2 Ultron. No IR-filter.
Can you see any IR "artefacts" in these photos?
The first one is with Summicron-C 40/2 and the second with CV 28/2 Ultron. No IR-filter.
martin s
Well-known
I think this point has been proven, but still. It bothers me, but not enough to actually use the filter... (the strap is entirely and completely black)
lemalk
Rebel Without Applause
It is a definite necessity when shooting inside most restaurants or stores - they use artificial lighting that can definitely ruin a shot.
I've also noticed that dyed hair in artificial light shows up as magenta.
Not fun. Not funny.
Spend the cash. Get the filter(s).
I've been using one filter on 2-3 different lenses and use step-up or step-down adapters to save $.
I've also noticed that dyed hair in artificial light shows up as magenta.
Not fun. Not funny.
Spend the cash. Get the filter(s).
I've been using one filter on 2-3 different lenses and use step-up or step-down adapters to save $.
martin s
Well-known
Well, this is kind of funny.
martin
So what I am seeing- synthetic Black material shows up as magenta.
This could be fun. I have a Nikon Coolpix 950 that I modified for full-spectral range on the Silicon CCD. It is a very good indicator of Infrared.
This could be fun. I have a Nikon Coolpix 950 that I modified for full-spectral range on the Silicon CCD. It is a very good indicator of Infrared.
aniMal
Well-known
I have filters for my lenses, except for the 15mm CV - I just haven´t been bothered with fitting one. Mostly I use it for landscapes and interiors, without people or synthetics, and sometimes it even gives a nice glow. Outdoors, sometimes faces and hands of people turn slightly magenta - but that is easy to compensate for in Photoshop. I plan on getting the M9 second hand eventually, and look forward to shooting without filters as I always have. But by then I will probably keep my M8 for the special look I get from the 15mm without filters! 
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I wouldn't use my M8 without IR filtering personally and because I only have a couple of filters, neither of which seem to fit any lens I own, I hold them on with three little balls of BluTack on the outside edge. It doesn't look great but neither does anything purple/magenta that's supposed to be black IMO.
I've always noticed that any time IR filters come up for sale in the classifieds they get snapped up almost instantly!
I've always noticed that any time IR filters come up for sale in the classifieds they get snapped up almost instantly!