David Hegar
Established
Hi all,
From the user ergonomic point of view what's the difference between the all metal advance lever (found in MP, M3) vs the one with plastic tip (M4, M6, and so on).
Why do people favor one over the other?
-d
From the user ergonomic point of view what's the difference between the all metal advance lever (found in MP, M3) vs the one with plastic tip (M4, M6, and so on).
Why do people favor one over the other?
-d
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
No to be rhetorical, but why do people prefer apples over oranges?
It is simply a matter of personal preference. Personally I prefer the all metal advance, but I can’t give you any logical rationale - I just like it better.
It is simply a matter of personal preference. Personally I prefer the all metal advance, but I can’t give you any logical rationale - I just like it better.
Fujitsu
Well-known
The plastic works better, the metal looks better.
btgc
Veteran
Plastic tipped should be more comfortable in subzero ambient temperatures 
aizan
Veteran
they both have their minor pros and cons. the all metal is sturdier and more elegant looking, but it's slightly difficult to pull out when it's tucked in and slightly prone to your thumb slipping off the end when working quickly, causing the lever to whip back and ding the shutter speed dial. the plastic-tipped lever was designed to alleviate these concerns, except the articulation makes it more delicate and it doesn't look quite as elegant. it can also scrape against the top plate if it's bent out of shape.
the solution, of course, is the hexar rf.
the solution, of course, is the hexar rf.
Dave Wilkinson
Veteran
Why do people feel the need to resort to questions like this?.....and more amazing........others give detailed answers! 
cnphoto
Well-known
i have big/long thumbs, the metal advance lever is easier to operate for me. the plastic articulated advance levers feel 'cramped' and slip off when winding fast - YMMV.
aizan
Veteran
Why do people feel the need to resort to questions like this?.....and more amazing........others give detailed answers!![]()
it's a matter of the utmost importance!
David Hegar
Established
Dude... you wrote the reply when nobody forced you...and the reason is...???
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Why do people feel the need to resort to questions like this?.....and more amazing........others give detailed answers!![]()
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David Hegar
Established
I don't have both versions, that's why I asked.
Thanks to all who helped with the insights.
-d
Thanks to all who helped with the insights.
-d
xxloverxx
Shoot.
I generally prefer full metal…less likely to slip for me (M3 vs M6, FM, FM2 & F3)
sig
Well-known
I once saw an interview with a famous pianist. The tangents (there is probably a better word for the white and black thingies) could not be to clean, they had to be sticky. If they were not sticky enough his last resort would be hairspray. So if your advance lever is slipping get some hair spray.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Sold this one recently:
I also have a black M6 with a metal lever, and of course an M3.
Like said, when you have bigger hands, the longer lever actually is easier to wind with. That, and it looks the deal too of course

I also have a black M6 with a metal lever, and of course an M3.
Like said, when you have bigger hands, the longer lever actually is easier to wind with. That, and it looks the deal too of course
Dave Wilkinson
Veteran
True!.....but not so much a reply - as an observation of the current trend in posts!...and you misspelled my name - not 'Dude', but DaveDude... you wrote the reply when nobody forced you...and the reason is...???
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Livesteamer
Well-known
It should be noted that the M3 double stroke had a slightly shorter lever than the M3 single stroke. This makes two types of metal levers as well as the plastic tipped ones. Clearly, these are critical decisions. Joe
Krzys
Well-known
When I first used a plastic tipped winder I freaked out thinking that I had broken it. I still think its broken and a silly design. Do you see hinged plastic tipped winders on any other cameras???? Metal works and looks great.
WalterM
Established
I've used both. Owned an MP and sold it for an M7.
The plastic rewinder feels quite a bit cheaper, but it is a bit more comfortable, i suppose.
The plastic rewinder feels quite a bit cheaper, but it is a bit more comfortable, i suppose.
ferider
Veteran
The plastic works better, the metal looks better.
+1. Plastic one is faster in use. That's why they invented it.
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
Metal all the way.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
It should be noted that the M3 double stroke had a slightly shorter lever than the M3 single stroke. This makes two types of metal levers as well as the plastic tipped ones. Clearly, these are critical decisions. Joe
Can anyone confirm this, or can you share sources?
I never heard of this before.
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