Gusmur
Member
Hi,
I have just put in what I hope is a winning bid for a nice 35 RC.
I might even try to buy a second one!
Recently acquired a Stylus Epic and an XA.
Noticed that the Stylus resolves 90 lpm, the XA 67 lpm and the RC 80 lpm.
Any thoughts?
I am loving the return to film...my best medium!!
Best,
Angus
I have just put in what I hope is a winning bid for a nice 35 RC.
I might even try to buy a second one!
Recently acquired a Stylus Epic and an XA.
Noticed that the Stylus resolves 90 lpm, the XA 67 lpm and the RC 80 lpm.
Any thoughts?
I am loving the return to film...my best medium!!
Best,
Angus
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lxmike
M2 fan.
I'm a great fan of the Zuiko, RC my alltime fav rangefinder compact, you can not go wrong with an RC, I love it and the Xa my fav night time compact, but hey i'm biased but oyu cannot go wrong with Olympus
charjohncarter
Veteran
I just posted my results of a Olympus Stylus Infinity here. This baby is sharp:
http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1330674#post1330674
The 35RC is pretty good too:
http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1330674#post1330674
The 35RC is pretty good too:
Gusmur
Member
Yea,
Just won the RC at auction!!
Can't wait to receive the camera and start shooting.
Will be using it along with my recently acquired Stylus Epic and XA at the Outer Banks in North Carolina this summer.
Will be sure to post some camparison shots.
Best,
Angus
Just won the RC at auction!!
Can't wait to receive the camera and start shooting.
Will be using it along with my recently acquired Stylus Epic and XA at the Outer Banks in North Carolina this summer.
Will be sure to post some camparison shots.
Best,
Angus
feenej
Well-known
Great camera! I miss mine. Sure wish I had not dropped it. Dropped other ones too.
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
I am bringing my XA to Karachi and Islamabad next week. Should be a blast.
cheers
raytoei
cheers
raytoei
charjohncarter
Veteran
Thanks, you are right about the blue skys, at first I thought I did something wrong.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Love mine!
Dave S.
Well-known
Is that why my Stylus Epic always surprises me?
Is that why my Stylus Epic always surprises me?
Hi Gusmur,
Congratulations on your new Olympus RC! I have two of them and love 'em both. My only suggestion would be investing in a lens hood to reduce flare.
Regarding "Stylus resolves 90 lpm, the XA 57 lpm and the RC 80 lpm" I'm curious where you read that information? If possible, please provide a link.
Perhaps those 90 lpm is why I'm always amazed at how my Olympus Stylus Epic performs? That said, I don't really know how lpm numbers correspond to real world results, but perhaps someone else can comment on that...
I wonder what kind of lpm numbers my Yashica 14's and GTN have?
-Dave
Is that why my Stylus Epic always surprises me?
Hi Gusmur,
Congratulations on your new Olympus RC! I have two of them and love 'em both. My only suggestion would be investing in a lens hood to reduce flare.
Regarding "Stylus resolves 90 lpm, the XA 57 lpm and the RC 80 lpm" I'm curious where you read that information? If possible, please provide a link.
Perhaps those 90 lpm is why I'm always amazed at how my Olympus Stylus Epic performs? That said, I don't really know how lpm numbers correspond to real world results, but perhaps someone else can comment on that...
I wonder what kind of lpm numbers my Yashica 14's and GTN have?
-Dave
johnbay
Member
Olympus Stylus Epic
Olympus Stylus Epic
Nice shots. I have been a longstanding Olympus user, OM1, OM2, XA and Stylus. A few months ago I "lost " my Stylus. I am having great difficulty acquiring a replacement. They seem to come rarely on the auction site and then go for high $$ when they do. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
johnbay
Olympus Stylus Epic
Nice shots. I have been a longstanding Olympus user, OM1, OM2, XA and Stylus. A few months ago I "lost " my Stylus. I am having great difficulty acquiring a replacement. They seem to come rarely on the auction site and then go for high $$ when they do. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
johnbay
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Expand your searches to the mju::II (Stylus Epic) or mju: (Stylus) in Europe - they are not that scarce or expensive here.
As to the supposed resolving power of these cameras, the mentioned figures are quite fictitious - for MTF assessments in the 100lp/mm range lenses are generally screwed to a test bench and measured with a pattern projector and photometer. If you really want to test a lens/camera/film combination, you can hardly get around fitting a SLR with a crosshair screen and 20x finder loupe, or you'll be testing the focus error rather than the resolution. It is already very hard to assess the higher limits of the MTF resolving power of a M lens on camera, due to the inherent focusing issues of any rangefinder - it is positively impossible to do so for a compact AF camera, or a rangefinder with a base width of little more than a thumb's width, as their focus is not reproducible beyond 30-40lp/mm for anything other than infinity.
Sevo
As to the supposed resolving power of these cameras, the mentioned figures are quite fictitious - for MTF assessments in the 100lp/mm range lenses are generally screwed to a test bench and measured with a pattern projector and photometer. If you really want to test a lens/camera/film combination, you can hardly get around fitting a SLR with a crosshair screen and 20x finder loupe, or you'll be testing the focus error rather than the resolution. It is already very hard to assess the higher limits of the MTF resolving power of a M lens on camera, due to the inherent focusing issues of any rangefinder - it is positively impossible to do so for a compact AF camera, or a rangefinder with a base width of little more than a thumb's width, as their focus is not reproducible beyond 30-40lp/mm for anything other than infinity.
Sevo
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Gusmur
Member
Resolving power numbers...
Resolving power numbers...
I have found my source for the Epic at 90 LPM here:
http://mcfaddenphoto.com/camera_manuals/epic_review4.htm
" Our lens check revealed a top-notch optic. Sharpness wide open was excellent at the center, good at the edge. Stopped down a bit (we estimate about f/4-5.6) the sharpness jumped to outstanding in the center, and excellent at the edge. (Just for reference, we're talking a little under 90 lines per millimeter resolution in the center, a figure that might give an SLR shooter P/S envy.) Field tests on slide film showed that at smaller apertures, lens sharpness improved still more at the edge. To cut the blather, this is simply a very sharp lens. "
I will look for the others for you. My intent here is to try to get an idea of the optics of these three cameras. Hope this is of interest!
Best,
Angus
Resolving power numbers...
Hi Dave,
I have found my source for the Epic at 90 LPM here:
http://mcfaddenphoto.com/camera_manuals/epic_review4.htm
" Our lens check revealed a top-notch optic. Sharpness wide open was excellent at the center, good at the edge. Stopped down a bit (we estimate about f/4-5.6) the sharpness jumped to outstanding in the center, and excellent at the edge. (Just for reference, we're talking a little under 90 lines per millimeter resolution in the center, a figure that might give an SLR shooter P/S envy.) Field tests on slide film showed that at smaller apertures, lens sharpness improved still more at the edge. To cut the blather, this is simply a very sharp lens. "
I will look for the others for you. My intent here is to try to get an idea of the optics of these three cameras. Hope this is of interest!
Best,
Angus
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Gusmur
Member
P.S...
Here's the link for the RC:
http://www.cameraquest.com/olyrc.htm
" Camera 35 tested the lens to resolve 80+ mm center resolution, from f/5.6 to f/16. "
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Gusmur
Member
XA resolution numbers...
XA resolution numbers...
http://www.diaxa.com/xa.htm
( taken from their table )
F STOP RESOLUTION LPM
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]8 [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]excellent [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]67[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]11 [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]excellent [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]67[/FONT]
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XA resolution numbers...
Here's the link for the XA:
http://www.diaxa.com/xa.htm
( taken from their table )
F STOP RESOLUTION LPM
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]8 [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]excellent [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]67[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]11 [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]excellent [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]67[/FONT]
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David Hughes
David Hughes
Thanks for the links.
To be honest I don't pay much attention to numbers. FWIW, if the thing is set up properly and so focusses accurately and gets the exposure how you like it then you'll be pleased. More to the point, the numbers change with aperture and so most overlap in real use.
They're only important if you shot wide open all the time and use a microscope to look at the detail in the corners.
The other point about the µ-II being dirt cheap is true in charity (thrift) shops but not on ebay. And instruction books for them are like hen's teeth. What I like about them most (and the Konica A4) is that no one takes you seriously when you're using them...
Regards, David
To be honest I don't pay much attention to numbers. FWIW, if the thing is set up properly and so focusses accurately and gets the exposure how you like it then you'll be pleased. More to the point, the numbers change with aperture and so most overlap in real use.
They're only important if you shot wide open all the time and use a microscope to look at the detail in the corners.
The other point about the µ-II being dirt cheap is true in charity (thrift) shops but not on ebay. And instruction books for them are like hen's teeth. What I like about them most (and the Konica A4) is that no one takes you seriously when you're using them...
Regards, David