Does this camera exist?

[Juan Valdenebro]

A very compact one, without rangefinder, without AE, without meter.

Just aperture and speed to be manually set.

Thanks!

Juan

 

[ItsReallyDarren]

I'm thinking Rollei 35. It's about as small as it gets. Unless we think about half frame cameras.

 

[petronius]

Olympus Pen original model; Rollei 35 without battery; Agfa Parat;
Have a look here: http://www.subclub.org/shop/35mm.htm

 

[rodinal]

Leica Null ?

 

[LChanyungco]

i want one of those "O" so bad !

Leica Null ?

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Backdoor film loading, full frame...

Something like an XA without AE and without meter where speeds could be set, or a Rollei 35 without meter...

Like the original Pen but full frame...

(I own lots of cameras I could use in manual and forget they have meter... None is as small as my XA, which has rangefinder, meter and AE...) But wasn't there any 70's compact, made for setting speed and aperture only, without meter or AE, so it could be smaller than the rest of compacts?

Cheers,

Juan

 

[btgc]

Yashica 72-E
Agat-18K

both are half-frames, though FF were not required.

EDIT: uh oh, now you need FF.
Only small 24x36 mechanical camera I know is 35RC, remove battery and do not use RF. Soft release enhances shutter release enough to be usable.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Thanks for the answers!

 

[emasterphoto]

Canonet QL17-GIII. Shutter speed and aperture can be set manually w/ no meter (meter only active in Auto mode). ISO goes to 800, pretty compact, and from the 70's.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Dear Juan,

Another half-frame suggestion (yes, I know you wanted full-frame): Olympus Pen W, astonishingly sharp 25/2.8 6-element lens (35 equivalent on full-frame), tiny, virtually silent, reasonable range of speeds, apertures to f/22. If I get down to Barcelona I'll being mine for you to play with. I prefer it to Rolleis, even if it is half-frame.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Canonet QL17-GIII. Shutter speed and aperture can be set manually w/ no meter (meter only active in Auto mode). ISO goes to 800, pretty compact, and from the 70's.

Thanks, emasterphoto...

Like the canonet there are lots of other cameras... They can be seen together and well compared on Stephen Gandy's "Compact 35's of the 70's" page... I was asking if a smaller camera, without AE and without meter was ever made to help reduce size... Couldn't be smaller than full frame for me because no normal slides could be done with it...

Thanks,

Juan

 

[peterm1]

Kodak Retina 1a.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/kodak/retina-1a.htm

 

[Mark Wood]

Voigtländer Vito B? Fairly compact, very nice Color Skopar lens and they always seem to look like they're brand new, regardless of age! Just remeber when checking one over that the film sprockets travelling across the gate turn the gear that cocks the shutter and not the winding lever.

 

[sevo]

Robot, Robot II or Robot Star (as small as it gets for an all manual with interchangeable lenses). Petri 35 Color (meter/battery not required for operation - as miniaturising did not reach its peak until meters had become standard, that is a limitation you may have to live with if small is top priority). Or Bessa 66/Perkeo (medium format, but barely bigger than 35mm compacts).

 

[aizan]

very compact + no rangefinder + no ae + no meter + manual exposure + backdoor loading + 135 format = no interchangeable lenses, afaik!

kodak retina i/ia
voigtlander vito i/ii/iia
agfa silette
zeiss ikon ikonta 35 522/24

 

[sevo]

very compact + no rangefinder + no ae + no meter + manual exposure + backdoor loading + 135 format = no interchangeable lenses, afaik!

You forget the Robots. 24x24mm format, though...

 

[Roger Hicks]

Peter has it: Retina! No contest. Though I prefer the IIa (RF + f/2) to the Ia (scale focus and f/2.8).

Most of the others have indifferent, slow 3-glass or 4-glass lenses or are ridiculously boxy in shape, though the 'bomb doors' Vitessa is another camera with first-class lenses.

Cheers,

R.

 

[SimonSawSunlight]

aren't there full frame robots? or are they all big mean monsters?

what about folders?

 

[sevo]

aren't there full frame robots? or are they all big mean monsters?

The Robot Royal is bigger, and has a rangefinder.

 

[ruby.monkey]

Leidolf Lordox 24x36.