Steve_F
Well-known
Hi all,
I'm looking for a bit of advice. I thought I'd try out some of the Rollei Retro 25 (Maco) for it's alleged sharpness and fine grain. I'm in a bit of a quandry over what dev to use. The internet, as always, can give many answers to the same question - but has anyone here had any experience with this film and a particular combination?
For the record I tend to use ID-11 or Ilfosol 3 with HP-5 and Perceptol with Delta 100 & Fuji Acros.
Steve.
I'm looking for a bit of advice. I thought I'd try out some of the Rollei Retro 25 (Maco) for it's alleged sharpness and fine grain. I'm in a bit of a quandry over what dev to use. The internet, as always, can give many answers to the same question - but has anyone here had any experience with this film and a particular combination?
For the record I tend to use ID-11 or Ilfosol 3 with HP-5 and Perceptol with Delta 100 & Fuji Acros.
Steve.
kossi008
Photon Counter
You probably mean Rollei Pan 25. At least it's not labeled "Retro" here in Rollei country...
I've tried it in Rodinal 1+24 and didn't really like the results. Probably should have tried 1+49 and higher, but even so the grain was comparable to Pan F, so I didn't see any advantage...
In Xtol 1+1 it looks really good, very smooth tones and almost invisble grain... I am currently trying to decide whether to settle on this or on Efke/Adox 25 or on pulled Pan F for my low-iso work...
I've tried it in Rodinal 1+24 and didn't really like the results. Probably should have tried 1+49 and higher, but even so the grain was comparable to Pan F, so I didn't see any advantage...
In Xtol 1+1 it looks really good, very smooth tones and almost invisble grain... I am currently trying to decide whether to settle on this or on Efke/Adox 25 or on pulled Pan F for my low-iso work...
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
Rollei Retro
Rollei Retro
First, it's NOT the same as APX100, although such claims have been made for it.
Second, I've only used Rollei Retro 100 in 120 size. I gave it 13 mins @20C in Rodinal 1:50 and the results were OK. However it dried with a distinct curl that made scanning a pain and as a result I've decided not to mess with it any more. How that all translates to 35mm I don't know, but it might help you decide on your own times.
Rollei Retro
First, it's NOT the same as APX100, although such claims have been made for it.
Second, I've only used Rollei Retro 100 in 120 size. I gave it 13 mins @20C in Rodinal 1:50 and the results were OK. However it dried with a distinct curl that made scanning a pain and as a result I've decided not to mess with it any more. How that all translates to 35mm I don't know, but it might help you decide on your own times.
Steve_F
Well-known
Apologies, it is Rollei Pan 25 - my mistake.
I have used Pan F with no problems but was experimenting to see how fine I could go with 35mm films.
Steve.
I have used Pan F with no problems but was experimenting to see how fine I could go with 35mm films.
Steve.
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
Have you checked the Massive Development Chart? It gives times for ID-11 Stock at 20C and Ilfosol 1+9 at 24C - you can interpolate the times, but they do appear to be short!
Mablo
Well-known
I've used several bulk cans of 35mm Rollei Retro 100. The bulk length film perforation is marked as "APX100". But this is a bit off topic.
stephaneb
Established
I don't really see the point of Rollei Pan 25. I have tried it, along with Retro 80S and found that Retro 80S beats it on every account. FDiner grain, higher resolution, better clarity in landscape, easier contrast when not overdevelopped. I tried both in Rodinal, HC-110 and Diafine. Development times published by Maco for Rodinal and Digitaltruth are plain wrong. They lead to massive over development. They should cut in half as a starting point. My times are even shorter than that.
I find Rollei 80S in Rodinal to be the current leader for landscape. In my opinion, better than Acros.
I find Rollei 80S in Rodinal to be the current leader for landscape. In my opinion, better than Acros.