Deal of the day: C Sonnar 1,5/50 ZM for € 789,99!!!

yanidel said:
I own several M lenses over $2000. They were all bought used.
If I sell them again today or in 5 years time, they'll still be worth $2000 or even more.
Do you know many hobbies were the items you purchase do not actually lose value ? Try golf, skiing, cars, .... ;)
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I guess it's no secret that used premium items tend to keep their value well in general, as long as they don't get much wear.

From your list, cars are a prime example. Of course you can always crash your oldtimer, but then again you can also drop your lens.
 
SimonSawSunlight said:
I paid way less than 500€ for each of my M bodies, the most expensive M lens I bought was a VC Nokton 1.2/35 for ~500€, the others were way below that too. the only two Leica (Leitz that is; 50mm 'cron collapsible, 35mm Summaron) lenses I own cost me ~50€ together so far
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Whoa, dude! Remind to never ever trade with you! Either you know some very good deals or you can talk the pants off anybody...:D

Anyway, Zeiss' policy of offering the ZI/Sonnar package at a mere 100 € more than the ZI body alone is quite insane. If I wanted only the Sonnar, I could buy the package at, say, 1400€, sell the body to somebody for, say, 1000 €, and I would have done him a favor and gotten me a Sonnar for 400€ as well. Insane, like I said.
 
That price is high to me because the C-Sonnar lens can be bought NEW for less here in the USA. Its only $1100 new here. Isn't 800 Euros about $1700?
 
Most lenses are less expensive for the US market. There is a huge market, and therefore prices are lowered to accomodate the buying power.
 
raid said:
Eaxctly; given that we can buy excellent used Leica and Zeiss lenses and lenses by other brands, who really needs a $1000 lens to take good photos with? If you are a professional reporter who also writes on lenses and if your job is to make sure that new lenses and cameras are sold a lot, then this is not really representing the majority of the photography community.

I have made many good buys.

As an example, I paid $250 for a Hexar RF and $150 for a CLA'd 35mm Summicron.
I have bought and old many lenses in the $300-$400 range at RFF.

If you have excess money, then this is a blessing for you. Enjoy it. Spend money.
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When I was an undergrad, I had a professor for sculpture who earned over $100,000 a year from the university. His wife was also a professor making the same. He wore old clothes he bought at the Salvation Army and drove the biggest piece of crap rusted out old Ford Escort, and he whined all the time about how poor he was: "Look at me I wear clothes from the Salvation Army cause I'm paid so badly". Strapped to the top of his crappy old Escort was a bicycle rack holding a $7000 bicycle. Yeah, his bike cost more than his car was worth (the car was worth $600 maybe!). Everyone has something they spend too much money on; if you're a good photographer and enjoy photography (as you are and you do), and you make good money (as professors do, at least after they get tenure) then you might as well buy a $1000 lens. Much more fun that my former prof's Bicycle!
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
When I was an undergrad, I had a professor for sculpture who earned over $100,000 a year from the university. His wife was also a professor making the same. He wore old clothes he bought at the Salvation Army and drove the biggest piece of crap rusted out old Ford Escort, and he whined all the time about how poor he was: "Look at me I wear clothes from the Salvation Army cause I'm paid so badly". Strapped to the top of his crappy old Escort was a bicycle rack holding a $7000 bicycle. Yeah, his bike cost more than his car was worth (the car was worth $600 maybe!). Everyone has something they spend too much money on; if you're a good photographer and enjoy photography (as you are and you do), and you make good money (as professors do, at least after they get tenure) then you might as well buy a $1000 lens. Much more fun that my former prof's Bicycle!
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I do. I bought a used 75/1.4 Lux at a very good price, and I am about to buy a used 35mm Lux at a good price, but I still find such lenses very expensive. I sold many items first to raise much of the cash needed.
It is debatable whether a couple of costly lenses give someone more enjoyment than ten lower priced lenses that had to be sold.
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
Wow, last time I checked the exchange rate was much different...the dollar was worth less or the euro more.
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A few years ago, one $US was worth EURO 1.25,

The dollar lost over 50% of its value when compared to the EURO, which by the way reached over $1.50.
 
raid said:
It is debatable whether a couple of costly lenses give someone more enjoyment than ten lower priced lenses that had to be sold.
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Maybe. Depends on if you use the new lens a lot and if the quality it gives is a lot better than the ones you sold.

I recently sold my 35mm Summicron, an expensive lens (paid $1300 for it used, sold it for the same) and bought a 35mm C-Biogon, a much cheaper lens ($800 new). In that case, the cheaper lens was better, I much prefer the images I get from it. I used the 35 Summicron a lot and I now use the Biogon a lot in its place, and I have some extra $$$ in my pocket.

On the other hand, I used to have a Hassleblad 50mm CF-Distagon, the cheaper non-floating element version. I sold it and got the more expensive FLE version and can say with 120% certainty that the more expensive lens, in this case, gives me MUCH more enjoyment. Why? Cause the image quality SUCKED on the regular version. It was so unsharp near the edges that it almost looked like a Holga took the photos. That's NOT what I want from a Hasselblad. The FLE version is sharp all the way to the edges and corners. Worth the extra money.
 
What happened!?
Didn't more then 600 used to be too much for a Used Sonnar? I paid less then that for one with the hood.
When did this huge price jump happen?
 
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