HDR Love

Why not ... after we've eliminated poverty, disease, war and sorted out global warming why not get rid of shadows?

Seems logical to me! :rolleyes:
 
My iphone does HDR now automatically and that is kinda cool. I'm still waiting for HDR to go from meh to useful.
 
No way!! This is fabulous... I means... I DO hate the HDR look, but for me... I actually work as a colourist ( I do colour for film...)

This is a total breakout because this camera in video mode can see about ten stop max in the hands of a great director of photography.... it's somewhat very limited when you play to get a good grading because of the 8bit and the H.264 compression...

With a more logarithmic curve (this soap-box gives linear) like this, this will be very easy to get a right and beautiful grading without noise in the gradient or shadow...

Hell yeah... :D
 
Really HDR could just be used to balance out extreme differences in light...like say if you were under a bridge in central park and you wanted detail in both the dark street and the sunny day beyond. In black and white I would do this with the zone system. With this web 'hdr' you see it used in like average lighting conditions, where there os really no need at all for an extended dynamic range. Like I guess if you forget that content has to matter you can just make pictures that look 'different.'
 
Careful, if it becomes significantly easier, you'll be expected to do more in the same time, and fewer colourists will be required to do the same work. Or I suppose it's possible, more people will want colourists and so things stay relatively the same.

On the HDR video - I remember seeing a year or so ago a video coming from research project investigating HDR video, and I was expecting the usual plasticky high-saturation look, but it didn't at all, it was a video of an interior but the windows weren't blocked out white and a lot more inside was visible than usual.
 
JohnnyT said:
No way!! This is fabulous... I means... I DO hate the HDR look, but for me... I actually work as a colourist ( I do colour for film...)

This is a total breakout because this camera in video mode can see about ten stop max in the hands of a great director of photography....
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I have no idea what your smoking, 5d has at most 7-8 stops in video. 10 stops+ in stills yes but not video. And the 2 cam HDR trick has been around for a few years since we got modern beamsplitters.

In essence, nothing new here, just more Canon marketing.
 
Like acrylic paint, it can be a bit cloying....
 

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sper said:
Really HDR could just be used to balance out extreme differences in light...like say if you were under a bridge in central park and you wanted detail in both the dark street and the sunny day beyond. In black and white I would do this with the zone system. With this web 'hdr' you see it used in like average lighting conditions, where there os really no need at all for an extended dynamic range. Like I guess if you forget that content has to matter you can just make pictures that look 'different.'
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You can also do this partially with a polarizer or a split neutral density filter. Hard to use on an RF though....
 
sper said:
Really HDR could just be used to balance out extreme differences in light...like say if you were under a bridge in central park and you wanted detail in both the dark street and the sunny day beyond. In black and white I would do this with the zone system. With this web 'hdr' you see it used in like average lighting conditions, where there os really no need at all for an extended dynamic range. Like I guess if you forget that content has to matter you can just make pictures that look 'different.'
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Agree. It's hard to argue against an extended dynamic range for the right situation. For most of the HDR I've seen, the opening up of shadows and pulling down of highlights becomes a distraction as too much irrelevant information starts popping out. The big plea I hear in favor of HDR is that "it's closer to what the eye sees." While it might come close to matching or exceeding the DR of the human eye, I have never equated any HDR image that I've seen with any reality--ahem, non-chemical induced reality --experienced with my eyes. :p Seriously, I have seen some photographers on one of the flickr HDR groups trying to keep the effect toned down to the point where it looks somewhat promising.



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You know what's sadder?

In the recent COLOR magazine edition, they showcase the stand-outs from the color photography community (as opposed to B&W, I guess).

... guess what, HDR rules the earth there.

And, not the kind that allows you to savor the landscape, discovering details that shouldn't be visible otherwise.

It's the kind that pokes you in the eyes and makes you recoil in disgust and fumble as quickly as you can to flip the page.

I mean, if I want to have a vivid nightmare, I can ask a bartender or doctor to prescribe something for me.

Ugh!
 
JayGannon said:
I have no idea what your smoking, 5d has at most 7-8 stops in video. 10 stops+ in stills yes but not video. And the 2 cam HDR trick has been around for a few years since we got modern beamsplitters.

In essence, nothing new here, just more Canon marketing.
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I'm not smoking anything my friend, but the footage I have here shows 10 stops (tight, but still) on a grey tone board. A lot of tweaking, specials gamma curves and a good workflow... And you do get a good dynamic range.

You just can't get 10 stops just by doing it in neutral mode or worse, standard... To get a good range, you must simulate a Log gamma curves, even if it is a linear format. You need to shoot flat, indeed. But sometime, you need to tweak the system a little bit... :)... And Apple Color do not really shine in that situation ...

The problem when you do grade those files is that the compression destroyed a lot of the gradient... And, even if you get a good dynamic range, the depth of the pixels limits greatly the final result.

The only problem I do see with this technique is probably the quality of the beam splitter itself... Must reduce the resolution... Which is not the strong aspects of the 5D.
 
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