Horizont Settings and Shutter???

[abumac]

Help please. I have bought an old Horizont camera, the metallic one. I have found different informations on the web. So my question is: Settings with shutter cocked or before cocking? Who knows the answer?

Thank you.

 

[spanish_inquisition]

cock then set the shutter speed

cock then set the shutter speed

I know russian and this is what the manual recommends

 

[abumac]

Are you speaking abaut the manual of the old one, which you find here: http://www.guenterposch.de/gorizont1.pdf

 

[spanish_inquisition]

Are you speaking abaut the manual of the old one, which you find here: http://www.guenterposch.de/gorizont1.pdf

Yep, I am speaking of this one. Look on Page 11. Here's another reason why you need to set the shutter & fstop after the shutter is cocked: it just makes sense. There is an arrow that indicates the selected fstop and shutter speed when the shutter is cocked. Here's a figure

Same applies to the newer Horizon 202 made in post-soviet Russia in the 90s. You simply can't set the shutter speed and aperture if the shutter is not cocked. I hope the attached images make sense.

ghe

 

[spanish_inquisition]

Are you speaking abaut the manual of the old one, which you find here: http://www.guenterposch.de/gorizont1.pdf

In Soviet Russia, shutter cocks you.
you can bash the Russian design school all you want, but some things they did think through.

PS: I hate how the newer Horizon 202 shutter is really hard to trip with a release cable. And the tripod mount hole is poorly designed on the newer 202.

 

[abumac]

Ok. Thank you. Strange the guy who published the manual writes just the opposite thing on his web. I asked him by mail and he matained to select settings and the cock. I can see on your informations, that this order is just impossible. Thank you so much.

 

[kjoebek]

Here is two pictures of my cam.
no.1: not cocked
no.2: cocked

 

[kjoebek]

no. 2: cocked

 

[abumac]

It is just opposite to the fotos spanish inquestion??!!?? Very confusing. I will see how my camera is.

 

[kjoebek]

That is how my camera works, and I just tryed is it again. 🙂

 

[abumac]

So there are different versions out there and for this there are different informations on the web. I think I will have to wait and see, how my camera works.

 

[Harold Gough]

Yep, I am speaking of this one. Look on Page 11. Here's another reason why you need to set the shutter & fstop after the shutter is cocked: it just makes sense. There is an arrow that indicates the selected fstop and shutter speed when the shutter is cocked. Here's a figure

Same applies to the newer Horizon 202 made in post-soviet Russia in the 90s. You simply can't set the shutter speed and aperture if the shutter is not cocked. I hope the attached images make sense.

ghe

On mine, purchased about eight years ago?, there is nothing accessible to sellect shutter speeds with, except the high or low range (button on top left of body) until the film has been advanced.

 

[rbiemer]

With most FSU cameras, it is better to wind on and then set shutter speed.
I have not seen a manual for the Horizont but I did find one for the 202:
http://www.butkus.org/chinon/horizon_camera/horizon_202/horizon_202.htm
and it states that "Shutter speed and aperture should be set only with the shutter cocked."
Rob

 

[varjag]

On the classic Horizont you set speeds and aperture after it is wound, yes. Otherwise the scales simply don't match, the selector rotates when shutter is fired.