al1966
Feed Your Head
So I have decided on FP4, so in order of preference.
Fine Grain, Good definition of small changes in tonality/contrast, Sharpness.
I will be photographing texture, this will be things like concrete or tarmac or a painted wall. So basically I am looking at relatively low contrast subjects, I don't mind a drop in speed as I can always use a tripod. So given these criteria what would you recommend?
Fine Grain, Good definition of small changes in tonality/contrast, Sharpness.
I will be photographing texture, this will be things like concrete or tarmac or a painted wall. So basically I am looking at relatively low contrast subjects, I don't mind a drop in speed as I can always use a tripod. So given these criteria what would you recommend?
drewbarb
picnic like it's 1999
For me, this depends upon the format. Also, you list fine grain as the most important characteristic, with sharpness as third. You do realize that these are basically inversely proportional, right? As in, finest grain = slight loss of sharpness, and greatest sharpness requires some clear degree of grain. This effect is especially obvious in 35mm. Which brings me back to my first point- format.
I use FP4 a lot for sheet film; with 4x5 and larger, I prefer HC-110 dilutions B or H. I don't shoot much medium format, but when I do I like FP4. I'll soup this in HC-110, too, but always dilution H here. I also like it in Formulary's TD-16, which is basically D76. I don't shoot FP4 in 35mm anymore, but I used to really like it in Rodinal mixed 1:50 or 1:75. This combo gave great tonality and wonderful sharpness. Grain is apparent, but very well controlled. (I went over to APX 100 for this speed in 35mm, and when I'm done shooting all the APX stock I have left, I'll have to decide if I want to go back to Plus-X or FP4.) Hope this has been helpful.
P.S. FP4 looks pretty good in Xtol, too.
I use FP4 a lot for sheet film; with 4x5 and larger, I prefer HC-110 dilutions B or H. I don't shoot much medium format, but when I do I like FP4. I'll soup this in HC-110, too, but always dilution H here. I also like it in Formulary's TD-16, which is basically D76. I don't shoot FP4 in 35mm anymore, but I used to really like it in Rodinal mixed 1:50 or 1:75. This combo gave great tonality and wonderful sharpness. Grain is apparent, but very well controlled. (I went over to APX 100 for this speed in 35mm, and when I'm done shooting all the APX stock I have left, I'll have to decide if I want to go back to Plus-X or FP4.) Hope this has been helpful.
P.S. FP4 looks pretty good in Xtol, too.
konicaman
konicaman
ID-11/D76 stock solution have always given me the best results with FP4, although Microphen might be a tad better, but very hard to control. Microphen works better when pushing.
EDIT: Should have stated that this is for 35mm - it works ok with medium format as well; I usually use times 20-30% longer than recommended with medium format, but that may have to do with what I am shooting.
EDIT: Should have stated that this is for 35mm - it works ok with medium format as well; I usually use times 20-30% longer than recommended with medium format, but that may have to do with what I am shooting.
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Roberto V.
Le surrèalisme, c'est moi
al1966
Feed Your Head
I meant to add that it will be on med format, now I think about it yes I need sharpness more than low grain. D76 is a handy one I have 5x 1l packs and will be getting more as I got it at a nice price. But as this is a major body over just random shooting, I am open to looking into alternatives to D76 and will not skimp.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
benlees
Well-known
Perceptol 1:1 might be your best bet.
absolutely! This combo is a treat. Foma 100 in perceptol (1+3) is also really nice.
nickdando
Established
(I went over to APX 100 for this speed in 35mm, and when I'm done shooting all the APX stock I have left, I'll have to decide if I want to go back to Plus-X or FP4.)
Silverprint in London is selling Agfapan APX100 in 35mm format again, with other formats to come.
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=2271
Nick
nathanp
Established
I've had nice results with FP4 & ID-11
(FP4 125 shot at 100, ID11, not sure of dilution)


(FP4 125 shot at 100, ID11, not sure of dilution)
Freakscene
Obscure member
ABC pyro or Pyrocat-MC are absolutely the best developers for getting high contrast between close values, particularly in midtones and highlights. You may need to increase the exposure to get equivalent shadow contrast. I have had to change paper when using these combinations to decrease the contrast of close values.
Marty
Marty
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
roberto: wow, i can smell/taste the cigar! great picture.
surfer dude
Well-known
Silverprint in London is selling Agfapan APX100 in 35mm format again, with other formats to come.
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=2271
Nick
That is very exciting news! Thanks for the link, Nick.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Another vote for Perceptol. This entails a slight speed loss: try setting the meter at 100 or even 80. At 1+1, probably 100.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
Roberto V.
Le surrèalisme, c'est moi
roberto: wow, i can smell/taste the cigar! great picture.
Thanks! As you can see, the tip of the cigar, which is where I focused, is pretty sharp. I haven't tried perceptol though, might have to give it a go.
drewbarb
picnic like it's 1999
Thanks for the heads-up here, Nick! This is great news! Hopefully it will make to this side of the pond soon, too.Silverprint in London is selling Agfapan APX100 in 35mm format again, with other formats to come.
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/ProductByGroup.asp?PrGrp=2271
Nick
arunrajmohan
Established
For FP4+ 35mm, Perceptol is better than D76 is better than DD-X.
Arun
Arun
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
Robertv, amazing shot. can i ask how did you manage to shoot this iso 125 film indoors ? thanks
Arvay
Obscurant
Robertv, amazing shot. can i ask how did you manage to shoot this iso 125 film indoors ? thanks
That was exactly my question!
Roberto, what was the exposition here?
Roberto V.
Le surrèalisme, c'est moi
That was exactly my question!
Roberto, what was the exposition here?
f/1.8 and 1/8s if I remember correctly. It was outside of a Starbucks with a few dim lights around. Steady hands and a bit of luck helped
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