Kiev 30

[loungelover]

hi sorry if this is the wrong place but i just bought a Kiev- 30 16mm camera. i found a bunch of unperforated kodak 16mm microfilm (imagelink FS) boxes say iso 10602.

has any one ever used this combination any idea if i can shoot it at a lower iso, i understand the kiev-30 only goes up to 200/sec and f/11

i have a line on mabe a 1000ft or more of this film expired 05/ 2004 so it would be prety cool if it was useable

thanks

 

[rxmd]

Well with the lower ISO of the microfilm you aren't really limited by what the camera goes up to, rather what it goes down to, which is a slowest shutter speed of 1/30 and a maximum aperture of f/3.5.

Sunny 16 says that in order to expose the film at 10 ISO, in full sunlight you can shoot at 1/30 and f/8 or so, depending on conditions in your area. The faster shutter speeds of 1/60 and 1/200 will be almost useless.

 

[loungelover]

ahh

ahh

i didn't know what ISO the film was the only ISO on the box was 10602 that may be something else though different standard or something maybe. thats pretty cool then

thank you

 

[rxmd]

Note that Imagelink is a microfilm, meaning that the effective ISO of the film depends a lot on the developer used. People report anything between 10 and 60 ISO for their film/developer combination.

You can get something like 25-30 ASA out of it with special microfilm developers such as Spur Imagespeed that also give decent contrast and grayscales. Together with the 1/30 minimum shutter speed that already gives a certain amount of flexibility.

 

[loungelover]

any Idea what rodinal will do?

 

[rxmd]

The problem with microfilm is that it has extremely high contrast, so you'll need a low-contrast developer. You can get that with Rodinal if you use it at high dilutions (1:100 and above). People usually add ascorbic acid (=Vitamin C) or sodium sulfite

Here's a page where a guy has used Rodinal at 1:400 with Imagelink FS, exposing it at ISO 125. The image looks a bit underexposed, so I'd probably stay at the ISO 80 side of things. (As microfilms go, Imagelink FS is one of the faster films.) Resolution is clearly lower than with a special microfilm developer, and the author says that while the grain looks finer with the Rodinal version, it's because he goofed up the focus on his enlarger.

So you can get some results with Rodinal, but it takes some tweaking and it's not really optimal.

 

[loungelover]

ok cool i might have a go as i have a lot of the stuff. thanks

 

[Murray Kelly]

Loungelover, have a look at

http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/subminiature-cameras-processes-discussion.html
http://photo.net/minox-camera-forum

When googling look for subminiature and Minox.

There may well be one here, but 've not seen it. I have poor eyesight!

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=84

will do?

Murray

 

[loungelover]

camera just arrived I am gonna shoot a couple of rolls

then see if i can get any thing out of it