fuwen
Well-known
To me the MIG ZM 15/2.8 and 85/2 have to be seen differently from the rest of the MIJ ZMs. I feel we must thank Zeiss for making the MIJ series affordable to most people who like M photography and want something price between Leica and Voigtlander. So Zeiss has made that happen for the most commonly used focal length.
As for the two MIG ZMs, Zeiss has decided to make them special, and therefore the high price. But no matter what they are around Leica price. I dun see a reason why Zeiss cannot sell lenses at Leica price. In the Contax C/Y days they had also made very expensive high speed lenses like 55/1.2 Planar and 85/1.2 Planar.
Anyway, if they have stop producing the 85/2 Sonnar, maybe they are thinking of a cheaper f2 or a f2.8 : )
As for the two MIG ZMs, Zeiss has decided to make them special, and therefore the high price. But no matter what they are around Leica price. I dun see a reason why Zeiss cannot sell lenses at Leica price. In the Contax C/Y days they had also made very expensive high speed lenses like 55/1.2 Planar and 85/1.2 Planar.
Anyway, if they have stop producing the 85/2 Sonnar, maybe they are thinking of a cheaper f2 or a f2.8 : )
kossi008
Photon Counter
Or maybe an 85/2.5? Hey, I can always dream... :angel:
MCTuomey
Veteran
How about a Sonnar-like Ernostar 90 for US$500 or less? That would be the Konica Hexanon 90/2.8, as Andy mentioned ... 
+4 on the photos. Gorgeous (sonnar flaws and all).
+4 on the photos. Gorgeous (sonnar flaws and all).
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Krosya
Konicaze
I think these examples are a good proof that old design was great and this is what Zeiss ZM should have gone with. Great shots!
hellomikmik
Well-known
btw same happened to ikon sw camera
it disappeared in silence
it disappeared in silence
haempe
Well-known
Yes, I noticed this also. Not a nice policy, this silent retreat.
tlitody
Well-known
The silver (special edition) version diappeared quietly too but came back just as quietly. So it may be that its just out of stock.
I emailed zeiss and the question I asked was: Is this lens still in production?
The reply I received was:
Since I hadn't ordered one I'm now confused and they didn't actually answer the question. I give up.
tlitody
Well-known
I'm now looking at the CV Heliar 1.8/75. What are they like? Any recommendations?
And a bloody site cheaper.
And a bloody site cheaper.
ferider
Veteran
How about a Sonnar-like Ernostar 90 for US$500 or less? That would be the Konica Hexanon 90/2.8, as Andy mentioned ...
Or how about a Sonnar-like Ernostar 90/2 for US 6-700, or so ? That would be ..... (few people realize) .... the Summicron 90/2 v3. Kind of funny if you think that the 85/2 ZM "Sonnar" is a double Gauss.
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aleksanderpolo
Established
Which one is the v3? Is it the one with 90 on barrel? or the one before it? I love the drawing of contax G 90/2.8, but to have it converted is kinda painful...
ferider
Veteran
The one I use is the last version before the apo-asph, serial 3,177,211 - 3,750,000, E55 and yellow 90 on the barrel.
As said above, your other option is the 90/2.8 M-Hexanon.
Roland.
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venchka
Veteran
Coulda. Shoulda. Woulda.
Don't pine over that which is unobtainable.
Buy what you can you should.
Elmarits. Nikkors. Hexanons. Sonnars from the Dark Ages. A Summicron even.
Lots of them.
Don't pine over that which is unobtainable.
Buy what you can you should.
Elmarits. Nikkors. Hexanons. Sonnars from the Dark Ages. A Summicron even.
Lots of them.
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MCTuomey
Veteran
Great point. I've wanted to try the 90/2 v3 for awhile but just haven't looked hard enough to find one since I don't use 90s often. I would love to have an extra stop for club/music shooting.
One in the classifieds just sold for over US$1,000, yikes.
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MCTuomey
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tlitody
Well-known
I hadn't but I have now. Looks good and impotantly is seems ideal for portraits not being too contrasty.
p.s. everytime I see your avatar I'm reminded of a pub in Corbridge I used to frequent.
Tim Gray
Well-known
Too bad they don't go for $600-700 any more. I was looking for one for one for quite awhile for that price and never found one. I've moved on now...
aleksanderpolo
Established
Maybe they've heard too many complaints about the "Sonnar" name and will reissue it as Planar, and sell it for more.
Mister E
Well-known
For me, I had little interest in such a LARGE lens. I opted for nearly the smallest and the lightest 90mm Leica ever made.
Tim Gray
Well-known
Actually, I do have the smallest and lightest Leica 90 (I think). But it's slow and I was thinking for something I could use inside. I kept on reading about how you could get the 90/2 pre-ASPH for $600-700, which sounds pretty reasonable. I just never found one for that price. And for $1100, or whatever it is they seem to be going for, I just wouldn't use it enough to justify it...
venchka
Veteran
Nikkor 85/2.0 + lifetime supply of film & chemicals + lifetime supply of petrol to carry the lens places it has never been before + Canon or Leica body to hold it. Or this vaporware Zeiss lens? My money went to the first list.