vieri
Leica Ambassador
Hello everyone, today May 15 2011, thousands of people protested in Istanbul against the Turkish government's decision to restrict even more Turkish people's freedom: Internet access will be limited, censorship even more strictly enforced & the already huge list of forbidden websites expanded. The new freedom-limiting law will be effective on August, 22...
A few M9 images out of the protest, which went peacefully, undisturbed by the Police and without incidents.
All with the 35 Lux pre-ASPH.
more images here, and here.
A few M9 images out of the protest, which went peacefully, undisturbed by the Police and without incidents.




All with the 35 Lux pre-ASPH.
more images here, and here.
lawnpotter
Well-known
Thanks for posting
Thanks for posting
I think the internet will wipe out these dictatorships in the future. They cant lie to their people anymore. and they wont be able to control the internet. It's great to see.
Thanks for posting
I think the internet will wipe out these dictatorships in the future. They cant lie to their people anymore. and they wont be able to control the internet. It's great to see.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Turkey isn't a dictatorship. Mostly, it's an astonishingly encouraging example of secularism and freedom. But, as the saying goes, "Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom," and secularism and freedom need to be defended. Kemal Ataturk would, I suspect, have been on the streets with today's Young Turks. Or at least, I like to think so.
And indeed, these are encouraging pictures: thank you Vieri. It is encouraging too that the demonstration passed peacefully. Now let's hope that the authoritarian and backwards-looking wing of Turkish politics realizes that they're playing with fire.
Cheers,
R.
And indeed, these are encouraging pictures: thank you Vieri. It is encouraging too that the demonstration passed peacefully. Now let's hope that the authoritarian and backwards-looking wing of Turkish politics realizes that they're playing with fire.
Cheers,
R.
vieri
Leica Ambassador
I think the internet will wipe out these dictatorships in the future. They cant lie to their people anymore. and they wont be able to control the internet. It's great to see.
Turkey isn't a dictatorship. Mostly, it's an astonishingly encouraging example of secularism and freedom. But, as the saying goes, "Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom," and secularism and freedom need to be defended. Kemal Ataturk would, I suspect, have been on the streets with today's Young Turks. Or at least, I like to think so.
And indeed, these are encouraging pictures: thank you Vieri. It is encouraging too that the demonstration passed peacefully. Now let's hope that the authoritarian and backwards-looking wing of Turkish politics realizes that they're playing with fire.
Cheers,
R.
Thank you guys, glad you enjoyed the pictures. About the situation here in Turkey, Roger is right, mostly - Turkey is of course formally a democracy, there are (semi)free elections (semi due to the rigging that takes places and the scandals that always follows any election); however, it is in a way a dictatorship in the way those in power use the power they have - the electoral system they modified allows them for an unchallenged majority in the chambers, with which they are able to basically do what they want, including illiberal and profoundly anti-democratic laws like the one all these people protested against. Let's hope this will change, soon and for the better: I agree with you Roger, Ataturk would have been in the street yesterday, let's hope that his spirit will prevail...
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Bob Marley sang:
Great shots, good job done.
You can lie to some people some time, but you can't lie to all the people all the time
Great shots, good job done.
vieri
Leica Ambassador
Bob Marley sang:
Great shots, good job done.
Thank you very much, glad you liked them
Plato said "Then the case is the same in all the other arts for the orator and his rhetoric; there is no need to know the truth of the actual matters, but one merely needs to have discovered some device of persuasion which will make one appear to those who do not know to know better than those who know.", and worse of all, the incarnation of the most terrible 20th Century's evil form of government, Hitler himself said: "the bigger the lie, the more people are going to believe it" (actually a paraphrases of his Big Lie theory). Unfortunately, it seems that despite all that happened and all these years, many governments around the world are still very fond of this and base their control of their people over various forms of manipulation of the truth, censorship, lies, etc etc. One hopes that mankind would learn from his history and his past, but one is always disappointed.
vieri
Leica Ambassador
Double post - sorry!
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sanmich
Veteran
I think the internet will wipe out these dictatorships in the future. They cant lie to their people anymore. and they wont be able to control the internet. It's great to see.
I have the same feeling.
In that regard, I think we may see a revolution as important as the invention of the print, and following it, the loss of total control of the church over texts.
Spyro
Well-known
I like the colours in your photos, normally I find digital blue disturbing but I think you got it just right. Nice photos generally.
Well well... look how many things Turkey and Greece have in common.
Elections is two wolves and one sheep voting on what they're gonna have for dinner. We need something more than that to call it a democracy.
there are (semi)free elections...however, it is in a way a dictatorship in the way those in power use the power they have - the electoral system they modified allows them for an unchallenged majority in the chambers, with which they are able to basically do what they want, including illiberal and profoundly anti-democratic laws like the one all these people protested against.
Well well... look how many things Turkey and Greece have in common.
Elections is two wolves and one sheep voting on what they're gonna have for dinner. We need something more than that to call it a democracy.
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vieri
Leica Ambassador
I have the same feeling.
In that regard, I think we may see a revolution as important as the invention of the print, and following it, the loss of total control of the church over texts.
Indeed, or at least we can hope so - the advent of social networking introduced an epochal change in the way people relate, and that had of course to influence and possibly determine political changes as well. Hopefully for the best, but very likely so when you put matters again in the hands of the people rather than in those of a few politicians who tend to fight for self-preservation first, and the best interest of a country and the people in it - eventually - much after.
I like the colours in your photos, normally I find digital blue disturbing but I think you got it just right. Nice photos generally.
Well well... look how many things Turkey and Greece have in common.
Elections is two wolves and one sheep voting on what they're gonna have for dinner. We need something more than that to call it a democracy.
Thank you Spyro, I am glad you enjoyed the pics. Very true re: Turkey vs Greece, I am italian and that is not much different as well - look at Berlusconi, and how he could stay in power for so long; luckily after the last elections it seems he is on his way out...
PKR
Veteran
Bob Marley sang:
Great shots, good job done.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)
alistair.o
Well-known
Thanks Vieri for bringing this to my attention. You did a good job in recording the protest, well done.
vieri
Leica Ambassador
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)
Very true - unfortunately, while this is true a more important point is: can you fool enough people at the same time to be able to stay in power enough time so that you will not need to fool anyone anymore because there will not be any more free elections - some guys in history, in different times and places, did; we also saw what this brought together as a by-product: death and devastation, more or less contained in one country, several countries, or spread all over the world. I hope people around the world will not allow that to happen again...
Thanks Vieri for bringing this to my attention. You did a good job in recording the protest, well done.
Thank you very much, I am glad you found them interesting
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