oftheherd
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Glad you are OK. There certainly is a problem along the border. My son won't go into Juarez unless absolutely necessary.
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Gunfight outside my house today.
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Griffin
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Although I've never experienced a nearby gunfight or a mass panick, I find the latter much scarier.
I'm very pleased to hear you are OK Roberto.
Best Wishes,
Brett
Best Wishes,
Brett
PatrickCheung
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Ouch, that must be terrible, I'd be scared out of my mind if that were to happen to me. I'm glad nobody got hurt. It's a shame though, there have been small scale gunfights in my neighbourhood (about two or three blocks from where I live), usually between gangs or over drugs. It's a shame that this stuff even happens.
John Lawrence
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Glad to hear you're OK too, and glad to hear that you didn't do what a lot of my old office colleagues used to do when we used to get caught up in gunfights - rush to the window to look out and / or take some pictures to send to their friends / family back home!
John
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Mister E
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A few things you should think about: get rid of the glass door, get a flack jacket and kevlar, get a piece for protection and never take cover on the second floor. Go climb in the lowest place you can find. Your basement or your bathtub or whatever, but AK-47 rounds will travel right through most houses without stopping.
I'm glad you are okay. Be careful and consider MOVING.
I'm glad you are okay. Be careful and consider MOVING.
Mister E
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As for Juarez, it's more dangerous than Kabul depending on who you are. Bagdad isn't even high on the list at the moment. Last year more reporters died in Mindanao, the Philippines than in Mexico, Iraq or Afghanistan.
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paulfish4570
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glad you are ok, Roberto. some firearms advice: don't buy a sidearm unless you are willing to use it as soon as it fills your hand. my dad taught me and my sibs to shoot a .22 pistol when we turned 5. he drummed into us what it means to go armed: never pull your weapon unless you pull the trigger. this taught us in a very few words what situational ethics mean: you better be sure your life - or the lives of your family members - is in danger, should the need to fill your hand arise, and that the other guy's life is therefore forfeit. i am the only one of the four children who ever chose to go armed ...
helen.HH
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Pleased to Hear YOU are Safe, and Picked up your camera to get some of the Action...😀
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My FAVorite Japanese Director 🙂
Pleased to Hear YOU are Safe, and Picked up your camera to get some of the Action...😀
Best to You -H
I'm glad to hear you are safe. That is scary, and in a situation where lots of people are shooting, and the police are responding- stay low an let the police do their job. Chances are the police will assume that everyone not in uniform shooting is a target.
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JSU
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There is a serious war ongoing between rival gangs wanting to control the flow of drugs into the USA and Ciudad Juarez is the choke point. The deaths are largely gang members, but also include politicians, police, journalists and the unfortunate non-gang members caught in the cross fire.
For many years my family vacationed in Mexico, it's a convenient destination for departing Houston. We stopped that three years ago. Our fears are the kidnappings that have become so prevalent all over Mexico, not just along the border.
Rob--Perhaps this was just a random event or it might be an indication of a change for the worse. Speaking of change, I would consider a different front door. Stay safe.
For many years my family vacationed in Mexico, it's a convenient destination for departing Houston. We stopped that three years ago. Our fears are the kidnappings that have become so prevalent all over Mexico, not just along the border.
Rob--Perhaps this was just a random event or it might be an indication of a change for the worse. Speaking of change, I would consider a different front door. Stay safe.
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I would trade that AK-47 for a semi-auto 12 ga. with #4 shot, unless she gets regular target and handling practice with the rifle. In close quarters the shot gun is equally lethal and far easier to aim effectively.
sig
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Would it be bad taste to tell you that you have to get closer?
And next time I complain about my boring suburb with no photo ops I will remember your story.
And next time I complain about my boring suburb with no photo ops I will remember your story.
pachuco
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Wow! What a crazy thing to happen to you! My uncle and his family live near you and I do worry about them. Take care and I'm glad you are not hurt.
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New Year's Eve must be interesting as well. I spent a few in Uruapan and it was full auto time at midnight.
Buy Mom what ever she is comfortable with, -- at close range, there is almost no spread on a shotgun, the shot acts like a large bullet, but there is an intimidation factor with that big muzzle pointing in your direction. Light loads should be sufficient.
At least with a shotgun, you are less likely to pick off any neighbors or anyone else in the five mile range of 30 cal high power stuff, the penetration is well beyond anything you see in Hollywood stuff.
As was once said, "I am not worried about the bullet with my name on it, just the ones addressed "to whom it may concern"
FWIW, A SM Leica will stop a 38 though.
The local bartender asked where I had been, I told her Puerto Vallarta, and she came back with "I heard 6 American women had their heads cut off there last month", she did not believe me when I told her I was there and I thought I might have heard about it.
Lucky for Mexico, tourism is up from last year, but they are hurting.
More people are bitten by Brown Recluses -- I have been recovering for 3+ months.
Regards, John
Buy Mom what ever she is comfortable with, -- at close range, there is almost no spread on a shotgun, the shot acts like a large bullet, but there is an intimidation factor with that big muzzle pointing in your direction. Light loads should be sufficient.
At least with a shotgun, you are less likely to pick off any neighbors or anyone else in the five mile range of 30 cal high power stuff, the penetration is well beyond anything you see in Hollywood stuff.
As was once said, "I am not worried about the bullet with my name on it, just the ones addressed "to whom it may concern"
FWIW, A SM Leica will stop a 38 though.
The local bartender asked where I had been, I told her Puerto Vallarta, and she came back with "I heard 6 American women had their heads cut off there last month", she did not believe me when I told her I was there and I thought I might have heard about it.
Lucky for Mexico, tourism is up from last year, but they are hurting.
More people are bitten by Brown Recluses -- I have been recovering for 3+ months.
Regards, John
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Roberto V.
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Thanks for the kind posts guys. Apparently the military tried to stop a suspicious vehicle, and they ran away. The case ended a few blocks from my place, and the cartel members called reinforcements. A 24 year old guy and a 17 year old girl were in the car, with a lot of cash, and some weapons. I'm not sure if anyone else was caught.
I personally think that the situation here in Mexico started getting out of control when the Zetas separated from the Gulf cartel. They started recruiting kids from the ghetto and giving them guns. Chaos was sure to follow. But well, that's a whole other story...
I have a friend that can get me military issue bulletproof vests, might be time to invest in one of those. I'm starting to read up on gun laws, I am considering getting a permit to have a gun in the house for protection. I had already considered moving to a different neighborhood, I'm currently looking into that. I took cover in the second floor because the front door, and the whole back of the lower floor of my house are made of glass. Looks cool, but doesn't stop bullets 😱. Upstairs I was in the area between the bedrooms, surrounded by concrete walls. Much safer.
Yeah, I'm definitely thinking of changing the door. At least to something that is not so easy to break into.
I personally think that the situation here in Mexico started getting out of control when the Zetas separated from the Gulf cartel. They started recruiting kids from the ghetto and giving them guns. Chaos was sure to follow. But well, that's a whole other story...
After the shots stopped, I had a quick look outside to see how bad the aftermath was. There was a kid who had been looking outside his window the whole time :bang:
I have a friend that can get me military issue bulletproof vests, might be time to invest in one of those. I'm starting to read up on gun laws, I am considering getting a permit to have a gun in the house for protection. I had already considered moving to a different neighborhood, I'm currently looking into that. I took cover in the second floor because the front door, and the whole back of the lower floor of my house are made of glass. Looks cool, but doesn't stop bullets 😱. Upstairs I was in the area between the bedrooms, surrounded by concrete walls. Much safer.
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Sounds like my old neighborhood... couple of weeks a go a guy got shot for walking his dog.. (uhm???) and another couple for drug related stuff...
So happy I moved!
So happy I moved!
Roberto V.
Le surrèalisme, c'est moi
Thanks for the advice Paul. I've given that same issue a lot of thought, and I think I'd rather be armed than find myself without protection in case I'm ever stuck in this kind of situation. I live with my mom, so I'm more worried about something happening to her. I already have practice shooting targets, so all that's left is getting a permit and buying a gun.
I know, how dare they interrupt my movie time 😡. Wish I could have gotten some action shots, but I didn't want to get anywhere near the windows in the front of the house. A neighbor actually found a bullet embedded in his sofa.
Thanks. I hope they are all well. Tell them to take a lot of care.
Good to know that I can use that IIIC I have lying around to stop bullets 😀. Scary to hear about the brown recluse bite! I hope you are well John!
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Roberto V.
Le surrèalisme, c'est moi
Funny thing is, I lived in a rough neighborhood for a year, and I never really saw anything like this. Definitely never heard gunshots. A few years later and in a nice neighborhood, adn this happens! Go figure 🙄
robbeiflex
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A scary experience indeed! Glad you are OK Roberto.
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