Lens Identification

[beyond]

Hi from KL. Am going to purchase a 35 mm PRe Asp summicron. According to seller. Its an early V3 (with aperture tab, As far I know..V2 has this tab) with V3 optic. I tried googling for info. But I cant find much info on the lens. Have you guys come across such V3? Serial is #24620**. Thanks.

 

[beyond]

No one? Anyone ? Help.

 

[seakayaker1]

Not familiar with the difference, from the serial number it is from 1970.

From the following web site: http://www.antiquecameras.net/leicamlenses.html

35 Summicron F2 Type 1 (M2-Chrome) $ 1,800-$2,300 1,640,000 - 2,316,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 1 (M3-Chrome) $ 1,000-1,500 1,640,000 - 2,316,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 1 (M2-Black) $ 3,500-4,700 1,640,000- 2,316,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 1 (M3-Black) $ 3,250-4,500 1,640,000 - 2,316,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 2 (S7) $ 950-1,250 2,316,000 - 2,874,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 3 (E39) $ 875-1,150 2,316,000 - 2,874,000
35 Summicron F2 Type 4 $ 1,500-1,900 2,970,000 - 3,731,000 Price keeps rising - used to run $ 800
35 Summicron F2 ASPH $ 1,650-2,150 3,731,000 - Current

Find some pictures of the 35 Cron here: http://kenrockwell.com/leica/comparisons/35mm-summicron/sharpness.htm

 

[astro8]

Is it Series 7 filter or E39?

 

[35mmdelux]

If summicron, then its E39. V2 w/V3 optics would be unusual and unlikely.

 

[beyond]

Thanks for the reference no. Here is a pic of the lens.

Note the aperture tab

 

[skipjack]

From Cameraquest:
35/2 Summicron. This is a fine lens in all versions, but is a bit confusing with five optical versions and many variations. Considered sharper than either version of the Summarons. Generally the later the version, the better. All versions have a convenient focusing lever.

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  [*]First version 1958-1969 chrome, Two versions, with "eyes" and without. "Eyes" were a viewfinder attachment built into the lens which converted the 50 frame on the M3 to a 35 viewing field. The exact same idea used on the later 135/2.8 Elmarit to give it a larger frameline. The M2 version slightly outnumbers the M3 "eyes" version. 8 elements. Likely to be acquired fogged from original owner, see Fogging. The M3 version focused to 26," the M2 and later versions focused to 28."
  [*]Second version 1969-1973 chrome from 2316001, has a little aperture control lever rather than traditional aperture control ring, 6 elements
  [*]Third version 1973-1979 black only from 2646001, E39 filter or Series VII/hood 6 elements
  [*]Fourth version 1980 to 1998. Sadly discontinued with intro of 35/2 ASPH lens. black and chrome E39 filters. Recognizable by aperture control ring's oval shape. The portion with F/stops is smaller and of a smaller diameter. The gripping portion of the aperture control ring has a larger diameter with serrations. This set up is VERY easy to use. Chrome versions are handsome, but significantly heavier than the black. Earlier lenses have "LEITZ LENS MADE IN CANADA" on filter ring while serial number is on the BACK edge of the aperture control ring. Later variation has "LEICA" on filter ring along with the serial number. A lot of these very fine lenses are on the market now, being traded in on the 35 ASP lenses. Lower prices make them great buys. Sure, the 35ASP is slightly better wide open, but at smaller apertures you will be hard pressed to tell the difference. My own favorite. 7 elements

 

[Dylan Hope]

Well, well, well

Well, well, well

That's the same type I have, only 31 serial numbers apart! I've been trying to find out what filter size it takes, since the barrel isn't threaded. I've heard that the lens hood screws open for drop in filters but no luck so far. Previous owner of the lens also managed to somehow break the focusing tab in half while leaving the glass pristine.

Optically, it's a good lens, I have no complaints. Admittedly the aperture tab takes getting used to because it's such a strange design. All my film work on my Flickr so far has been done with the lens, though you probably won't be able to really see its characteristics on an 800px long image. If you'd like I can try find my aperture comparison shots I did a while back and dump them on Flickr?

 

[beyond]

Hi Dylan, Yeah. Its the same lens. With the same hood too 🙂
So, its a Version 3 or Version 2?
Your flickr looks good.

 

[Lflex]

According to E. Puts, the last 35/2 v2 serial number assigned was 2.483.503. The lenses shown in this thread looks like v2, are well within the serial range of v2, thus they are probably version 2.

 

[Dylan Hope]

Hi Dylan, Yeah. Its the same lens. With the same hood too 🙂
So, its a Version 3 or Version 2?
Your flickr looks good.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with everyone else here, it's more than likely a version 2.

 

[dogberryjr]

I've heard that the lens hood screws open for drop in filters but no luck so far.

I think that hood has one version that's threaded for filters and one that is not.

 

[kiemchacsu]

I've heard that the lens hood screws open for drop in filters but no luck so far. Previous owner of the lens also managed to somehow break the focusing tab in half while leaving the glass pristine.

The hood you mentioned is different one, code Leica 12504. I got it with my former Summicron V3, and now I am using it with my Summicron V4 after selling the V3.

 

[Dylan Hope]

The hood you mentioned is different one, code Leica 12504. I got it with my former Summicron V3, and now I am using it with my Summicron V4 after selling the V3.

Ah, thank you. I'll be looking into the Keger version and a B+W/Heliopan UV filter just as soon as I've bounced back from the film shipment I'm preparing to make over the weekend 😀

They never said using a Leica would be cheap 😛