Nomad Z
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I like the tonal range of Rollei Retro 100 (repackaged APX 100). Any suggestions for a 400asa film with a similar look?
400asa film to match APX 100?
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haempe
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How do you develop your apx usually?
Nomad Z
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HC-110, dil B, for some amount of time that I don't recall at present (whatever the massive dev chart says). 30 secs agitation at start, 10 secs every minute thereafter. Agitaion by inversion, 3 inversions takes 10 secs.
haempe
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Sorry, no HC 110 experience here.
In D76 APX 100 and TX or Kentmere 400 fits well for my taste.
In D76 APX 100 and TX or Kentmere 400 fits well for my taste.
johannielscom
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RolleiRetro 400S shot @800 and developed in D76:
20111218-35RolleiRetro400S@800-2-3067 by Johan Kuiper, Portretteur.nl, buzzardkid, on Flickr
There's more shots in my flickr account
I have figured out a semi-stand, 38 minute development scheme that gets nice tonality from this slightly IR-sensitive film. PM me if interested.
20111218-35RolleiRetro400S@800-2-3067 by Johan Kuiper, Portretteur.nl, buzzardkid, on Flickr
There's more shots in my flickr account
I have figured out a semi-stand, 38 minute development scheme that gets nice tonality from this slightly IR-sensitive film. PM me if interested.
Florian1234
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Well, in summer I use Rollei Retro 100, too. I soup it in D76 1+1. As 400 film I use Tri-X. Because the 400 Rollei Retro is not that good imho.
Nomad Z
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Thanks all.
The Kentmere 400 looks interesting. I do have some Retro 400S, but have only shot one roll of it so far, and that was to see how it did for IR. I'll try another roll for conventional stuff and see what I think. Tri-X is a bit pricey compared to the other two - 4 quid a roll, typically, compared to about £2.50
Johan, do you always shoot the Rollei film at 800asa?
The Kentmere 400 looks interesting. I do have some Retro 400S, but have only shot one roll of it so far, and that was to see how it did for IR. I'll try another roll for conventional stuff and see what I think. Tri-X is a bit pricey compared to the other two - 4 quid a roll, typically, compared to about £2.50
Johan, do you always shoot the Rollei film at 800asa?
Mablo
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Kentmere 400 is a good option. HC-110H, 11mins is my usual recipe. For dilution B 5:30 mins.
timor
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Superb photo Johan !RolleiRetro 400S shot @800 and developed in D76:
20111218-35RolleiRetro400S@800-2-3067 by Johan Kuiper, Portretteur.nl, buzzardkid, on Flickr
There's more shots in my flickr account
I have figured out a semi-stand, 38 minute development scheme that gets nice tonality from this slightly IR-sensitive film. PM me if interested.
NomadZ: Kentmere 400 maybe has good opinions, but is not in the same class as TX. If you are going to try it try also Foma 400, which in tonality is closer to APX.
Trius
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You might try Foma 400, too, but I would say APX 400 or its clones.
And remember ... Happiness is APX 100 and Rodinal 1:100.
And remember ... Happiness is APX 100 and Rodinal 1:100.
Nomad Z
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I haven't tried any of the Foma films. The blurb that accompanies them in the web shops says the quality isn't up to that of the big makers, but what does that mean in practice? Pinholes? How often do flaws show up?
And, how does Foma 400 compare to others for grain?
And, how does Foma 400 compare to others for grain?
johannielscom
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thanks for the compliment!
I started shooting 400S @ 800 recently, after having shot some rolls of Tri-x @800. However, that film is far more expensive in EU, I ran out of it and the 3 bulk loads of 400S were ready to roll so I researched a developer and recipeand used it. And like it!
The recipe is in the Film thread, search for a title containing 400S and D76 there.
I'll be shooting some more of it this afternoon.
I started shooting 400S @ 800 recently, after having shot some rolls of Tri-x @800. However, that film is far more expensive in EU, I ran out of it and the 3 bulk loads of 400S were ready to roll so I researched a developer and recipeand used it. And like it!
The recipe is in the Film thread, search for a title containing 400S and D76 there.
I'll be shooting some more of it this afternoon.
johannielscom
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Here's the recipe:
Rollei Retro 400S film. Exposed @ 800 ASA.
Developed in Kodak D76 1+1 @ 20ºC
Development: 37min 20secs.
Continuous: 1Min, Stand: 18min. Continuous: 20sec, Stand 18min.
Stop (running water): 1min
Fix: 5min. Continuous 1min, every minute 10secs.
Hypo: 2min soak.
Rinse (running water): 5min.
Photo-flo: 30secs soak.
Shook the water off and hung it. No striping the water off!
Rollei Retro 400S film. Exposed @ 800 ASA.
Developed in Kodak D76 1+1 @ 20ºC
Development: 37min 20secs.
Continuous: 1Min, Stand: 18min. Continuous: 20sec, Stand 18min.
Stop (running water): 1min
Fix: 5min. Continuous 1min, every minute 10secs.
Hypo: 2min soak.
Rinse (running water): 5min.
Photo-flo: 30secs soak.
Shook the water off and hung it. No striping the water off!
ferider
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I love Rollei Retro 100. The best matching 400 film for me is TMY-2 400. I use Rodinal for both, however.
Turtle
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TriX.
Close enough on character and bulletproof. Oh, and very flexible.
Close enough on character and bulletproof. Oh, and very flexible.
Nomad Z
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It's a bit hard to pay £4 a roll for Tri-X when the Kentmere, Rollei and Foma films can all be had for about £2.50 with a bit of shopping around.
Something I haven't found in the UK is a rebranded Tri-X at a sensible price, like the Arista Premium in the US.
Something I haven't found in the UK is a rebranded Tri-X at a sensible price, like the Arista Premium in the US.
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Trius
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My experience with the Foma is limited and I haven't scanned or printed anything yet. On casual inspection the grain isn't as small and tight as TX or TMY-2. I think it is probably tends to be more "old school", which is how I would classify APX films. For quality control it's hard to beat Kodak and Ilford.
timor
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There will be one more suggestion from me. I tried it and I am sold to it. Eastman Double X. Not quite 400, only 250 but very flexible emulsion.
Here is long running tread:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52426&page=44
Tonality of this film (which is low contrast to start with) is easy to control by the means of type of developer and agitation. Low contrast characteristics should give very good pushing properties. For me Rodinal with it works amazingly well.
Here is long running tread:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52426&page=44
Tonality of this film (which is low contrast to start with) is easy to control by the means of type of developer and agitation. Low contrast characteristics should give very good pushing properties. For me Rodinal with it works amazingly well.
haempe
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Kentmere 400@320 in TMaxDev 1+4
Not the ideal developer for K400 at box speed, I like my grain sharper, D76 looks better. I need to do some Rodinal tests also.
Not the ideal developer for K400 at box speed, I like my grain sharper, D76 looks better. I need to do some Rodinal tests also.
Nomad Z
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I ended up ordering Tri-X. Never used it before, so I think I have to give it a try. I was a little concerned at possible quality control issues with Fomapan, and I gather the Kentmere is a bit more grainy.
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