Fuji software - what a load of.....

[Gazzah]

I just installed the software that came with the xp1 - what a waste of time that was!
I have a powerfull PC and it runs like treacle on a winters day -and that silkypix is rubbish..😡 Even the old Hyperutility from fuji was better than that!

I really dont want to have to upgrade my 4 year old PS just for this camera... Luckily the JPGs are good OOC


Sorry - just neded a quick rant.....

 

[bigeye]

All vendor software is miserable, not just Fuji's.

The only one that makes sense is Leica's bundling of Lightroom, but then you get to whine about the cost.

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[Kent]

What you can do is to install the lastest Adobe DNG converter and convert the Fuji RAWs to DNG which you can open in your Photoshop version.

 

[jsrockit]

Any word on a Lightroom update? I figure I will just hold all of my images from the X-Pro1 until Lightroom supports them. I'm not bothering with a new workflow just for a camera. I'm sure the couple of people that see my images can wait a few weeks to see them... 😉

 

[splitimageview]

What you can do is to install the lastest Adobe DNG converter and convert the Fuji RAWs to DNG which you can open in your Photoshop version.

Are you sure about this?

 

[jskjsk]

Are you sure about this?

As far as I can tell, it currently does not support XPRO 1

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/extend.html

More info
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4268214#4268214#4268214

 

[dcsang]

The most recent DNG converter does NOT support X-Pro1 RAW files. It WILL support X10 RAW files but not the X-Pro1 files.

We're still waiting for Fuji and Adobe to get together on this....

Cheers,
Dave

 

[kuzano]

Always the case with Fuji Silkypix...

Always the case with Fuji Silkypix...

Fujifilms SilkyPix software has been KRAPWARE since their very first digital camera offering. The mere fact that it has only been marginally improved for years indicates that such will always be the case.

However, as BIGEYE says, that's pretty much true of all OEM software packages. Obviously after all the money is spent on R&D, Manufacturing, Packing & Shipping and marketing, not much money is left for software design, development or Improvement.

Just do a search on...... Silkypix software popularity....

No one whose had a Fuji digital camera ever buys another based purely on the software, but that's not uncommon with most OEM software.

 

[splitimageview]

Silkypix is third party software AFAIK. It is bundled with other camera manufacturers as well, not just Fujifilm.

 

[hub]

Camera manufacturers know nothing about PC software. Really nothing. If I had to judge the camera on its vendor software, I'd stick to film. But Fujifilm really excelled in mediocrity here. Even Canon DPP that I managed to crash the first time I used it does not look so bad. Or Olympus own.

Why can't they just all generate DNG and let the people who know how make the software.

 

[splitimageview]

Um...they just bundled it. They didn't write it. That doesn't take away from the fact it's not intuitive, although it *does* actually work.

 

[dcsang]

Um...they just bundled it. They didn't write it. That doesn't take away from the fact it's not intuitive, although it *does* actually work.

I think, and I could be wrong, what Hub is saying is that he's aware they didn't write it but the fact is, that they (i.e. camera manufacturers in general) should not even venture into the realm of putting conversion software in with their cameras. They could work with companies who actually write software if they like (i.e. like Adobe or CaptureOne or such) rather than just "buying" in bulk the software licenses (in this case, for Silkypix) and shoving them in with their cameras.

I get what he's saying though - and ya, it does work, but it's completely lousy imho - others may find it a joy to use but I'm not one of those folks.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[scottwallick]

I predict raw support for the X-Pro1 in the next ACR release, which usually happens every three months. Last release was in December 2011 (version 6.6).

The ACR 6.7 release beta released this past March does not include X-Pro1 raw support—although they do specifically mention the camera in the release notes.

So maybe ACR 6.7 will support X-Pro1 raw, maybe it won't. But ACR will support it—the only question is when.

Silkypix isn't unusable, but it is terrible. You can get great JPGs from the X-Pro1''s raw files using it.

Panasonic also gives out Silkypix 'SE'. One issue may be that the current Silkypix release is version 5; I'm not sure why the bundled software (version 3) is two versions old.

 

[Ranchu]

Camera manufacturer's make better converters than anyone else does, though Raw Developer is pretty good. DPP is a superb convertor these days, the main reason to shoot Canon, imo. Don't forget Phase One is a camera manufacturer, Adobe is a Sh!t convertor and always has been. Convert the same portrait, landscape, in DPP and Adobe and look at them. I don't care if you can diddle 53 sliders, which looks better? That said fuji software is the worst I've ever experienced, I sold the S5 rather than use Adobe. Nikon's ViewNX does excellent conversions, the reason these converters are slow is because they re render the whole file after you make a change, you're not looking at a preview image like in Adobe's pile of slop. If you convert your files to DNG and don't keep the originals, you will forever lock yourself out of their best conversions, the manufacturer's. Fuji's hyperutility was actually a 3D LUT convertor, which I imagine they all will be some day. http://archiv.arri.de/news/newsletter/articles/09082005/digital_systems.htm

 

[Nikon Bob]

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that used the manufacturer's software, Capture NX2 in my case, and thought it was pretty darn good. It is not slow on a fast PC either. Silkypix OTOH is horrible to use and I uninstalled it. The JPEGS from the X10 are good enough run through PSE 10. Not all manufacturer's software are kludges.

Bob

 

[Gazzah]

I have had nikon DSLRs for some time, apart from a few minor quirks Capture has to be one of the best raw deveopers there is.
I also had an S3 Pro - Hyperutility, while very clunky worked and produced wonderful results. I have a problem with adobe - I was bought a copy of C2 as part payment for a job, then I tried to update it Adobe tells me it was sold to a different company and I should stop using it immediately, un-install it and return any media. So I wont be paying them any more money for software that is bloated with stuff that I would never use anyway.

 

[jarski]

guess raw engine on vendors software knows best how to develop this particular file to common formats. but GUI and usability aspects are often neglected. Adobe raw processor isn't crap IMO, especially after version 6 became available. as OP, I'd wait when ACR supports your camera, and use it with your old Photoshop. in a mean time, shoot raw + jpeg 🙂

edit: oops spotted OP last comment about CS2 only now. well there are plenty both free and costly options out there...

 

[Ranchu]

I forgot though, set the camera to save the pic in srgb even if you're only shooting raw.

😎

 

[Nikon Bob]

I don't think anyone meant to imply that Adobe's Raw processor was crap. Just merely pointing out not all camera manufacturers Raw converters were crap, but some are.

Bob

 

[jsrockit]

No word on the lightroom update yet?