--s
Well-known
i´m no doubt the best printer of the universe and even beyond, regarding my own negs. which is an easy job, as i am the only one to do so.
Sparrow
Veteran
... over 80% of men believe that their driving skills are above average ... makes one think
pakeha
Well-known
... over 80% of men believe that their driving skills are above average ... makes one think
what do the other 20% think? superb? or worse than average?
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Sparrow
Veteran
what do the other 20% think? superb? or worse than average?
... yep, I wondered that too when I read it ... but of course the majority of statistics are made up anyway
FrankS
Registered User
73% of statistics cited are made up on the spot.
mdarnton
Well-known
I can't find myself in the list. For quite a while I was alternately a photographer and a B&W printer for other photographers. I once took a seasonal job that they'd used three people for, for years, and when they hired me they had to reassign the other two they'd hired that year. So I guess I do decent work, but I don't enjoy it, and dumped my darkroom about 12 years ago in favor of digital. I bet I could, today, walk into anyone's darkroom, with any equipment, and make a better print than most people, on the first or second sheet of paper. (Yes, I have a system, a consistent method. When I'm spinning, my trash rate is phenomenally low.)
Recently, however, having gone back to film since November, I have been regathering the fixings for a pocket darkroom based on a Durst M301 (my first enlarger, c1958, was a Durst 35mm enlarger, also, a Durst Reporter), so I guess I will be doing it again.
Recently, however, having gone back to film since November, I have been regathering the fixings for a pocket darkroom based on a Durst M301 (my first enlarger, c1958, was a Durst 35mm enlarger, also, a Durst Reporter), so I guess I will be doing it again.
Audii-Dudii
Established
I was pretty much hopeless in the wet chemical darkroom, but after 15 years of making inkjet prints for myself, I can now confidently declare myself to be a master printer ... of my own work, anyway!
Seriously! I've had other people (including several professional printers) print my files and their results are nowhere as good as mine. Of course, it helps that I'm effectively working in a closed-loop, in that I'm able to tailor my captures so as to optimize my final prints, because I know what look I want my prints to have and I know the various idiosyncracies of the equipment I'm using -- both on the front end and the back end -- quite well. That's an advantage that most professional printers don't have and at times, it can be quite a significant one.
Mind you, I suspect I would be hopeless at printing other people's files...
Seriously! I've had other people (including several professional printers) print my files and their results are nowhere as good as mine. Of course, it helps that I'm effectively working in a closed-loop, in that I'm able to tailor my captures so as to optimize my final prints, because I know what look I want my prints to have and I know the various idiosyncracies of the equipment I'm using -- both on the front end and the back end -- quite well. That's an advantage that most professional printers don't have and at times, it can be quite a significant one.
Mind you, I suspect I would be hopeless at printing other people's files...
V
varjag
Guest
First printed wet when I was 9 or 10. I spoiled a few hundred sheets learning to print from 35mm, 120 and 5x7", so can arrive at a decent looking print now. Voted 4.
zuiko85
Veteran
Sorry, but did not vote as there was no category titled 'hack wet printer'
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Have only been doing it for like two years. Unlike developing film, I have stuck with the same chemicals and materials (a.k.a paper). I find that having done years and years of Photoshop work helps you in the darkroom as well. But... I'm just a rank amateur. But the people I give prints usually are very happy with them. Even my wet prints far, far surpass b/w lab prints of digitized files.
135format
Established
Well looks like most people place their skills somewhere in the middle which I would have guessed is about right. We have a handful who are very experienced printers and a surprising amount of "Master Printers". Not what I would have guessed but I know there are some very experience printers out there and I suppose since we have a fair amount of B+W photographers here maybe not too surprising.
And its good too see that we have new people entering the printing scene. Very important to keep wet printing alive. Stick at it, it gets easier with frequent practice.
Keep the votes coming.
And its good too see that we have new people entering the printing scene. Very important to keep wet printing alive. Stick at it, it gets easier with frequent practice.
Keep the votes coming.
135format
Established
There is no surprise to the amount of ego on the Internet! Who knew that 12% of RFF are master printers! I guess this is proof positive of a study I saw a while back that average people always overestimate their abilities. Stewart touched upon that earlier. I sure would love to see some of the work of the master printers here!
Maybe my definition of a master printer deviates from some here but I have known some real master printers.
Since there is no distinction bewteen wet or dry printers I'd say you really don't know one way or the other. Give them the benfit of your doubt, they may be dry printers who are experts in inkjet printing.
And for others, my take on what a master printer is, is one who is accorded that status by his/her peers. Its not something you decide yourself.
Fawley
Well-known
I've improved from the kind of stuff I used to crank out 30 years ago anyway. I'm starting to be able to reliably improve on an image by the usually darkroom tricks. I want to get better with toning and Farmer's Reducer.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
The way I see it, you either bond with darkroom printing, or not.
It's like with piano (or lots of other things, piano is just an obvious one that came to my mind), some people have the talent, others don't.
You could be doing darkroom for years, but you still don't love *doing* it. You just like the results, therefore, you don't understand why others like the process.
You could be doing it just a couple of weeks, but you loved it. And that spurs you on to keep trying and guess what, you'll get better sooner.
I love printing in the darkroom.
I wish I have more time to do it.
It's like with piano (or lots of other things, piano is just an obvious one that came to my mind), some people have the talent, others don't.
You could be doing darkroom for years, but you still don't love *doing* it. You just like the results, therefore, you don't understand why others like the process.
You could be doing it just a couple of weeks, but you loved it. And that spurs you on to keep trying and guess what, you'll get better sooner.
I love printing in the darkroom.
I wish I have more time to do it.
Chris101
summicronia
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I love printing in the darkroom.
I wish I have more time to do it.
That's where I am too. I also wish I had the energy to do it. Snapping and posting digital images is just SO much less work. I can usually only manage one major printed project a year.
When I compare how many see my prints vs the number of eyeballs that see my digital work on the internet ... well, that's discourages me as a printer too.
But then, when I look at my prints - and hold them in my hands - that makes the effort worthwhile again.
timor
Well-known
No kiddin.. Roger. In any case you are close enough to get help from E. Buziak.Mediocre
rizraz
Established
Just started wet printing again....... getting better
dry printing........ this one getting worse, the printer finally decided to gave up on me last month.
dry printing........ this one getting worse, the printer finally decided to gave up on me last month.
steveniphoto
Well-known
i started last week and made a few prints.. they were passable i guess.
jordanstarr
J.R.Starr
I enjoyed reading this article, but what I enjoyed the most was the notations on the work prints.
http://theliteratelens.com/2012/02/17/magnum-and-the-dying-art-of-darkroom-printing/
http://theliteratelens.com/2012/02/17/magnum-and-the-dying-art-of-darkroom-printing/
jordanstarr
J.R.Starr
Well looks like most people place their skills somewhere in the middle which I would have guessed is about right. We have a handful who are very experienced printers and a surprising amount of "Master Printers". Not what I would have guessed but I know there are some very experience printers out there and I suppose since we have a fair amount of B+W photographers here maybe not too surprising.
And its good too see that we have new people entering the printing scene. Very important to keep wet printing alive. Stick at it, it gets easier with frequent practice.
Keep the votes coming.
I'd be interested to know what the definition of "Master Printer" is and how one obtains that title.
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