wilonstott
Wil O.
just a quick question.. ive never shots slide film before but would like to start. whats the difference between mounted and unmounted?
Mounted means they put them in the little white cardboard frames.
Unmounted means they leave them in strip or roll--like any other film.
They are mounted so they can be projected.
loquax ludens
Well-known
just a quick question.. ive never shots slide film before but would like to start. whats the difference between mounted and unmounted?
Mounted film is cut and each frame is individually enclosed in a cardboard (not very common anymore) or plastic (more likely) sleeve that fits in the carousels or trays for slide projectors. Usually this is only done for 35mm, but you can have medium format film mounted in slide mounts too, and there are some MF slide projectors.
Mounted film is usually easier to handle. You can look at them on a light box with a loupe. If it's unmounted, you can have it cut and sleeved, or you can leave it in rolls. Unmounted film is often better for scanning, depending on the scanner.
When I process E-6 at home, I mount my 35mm film in sleeves using a Pakon MM-100 mounter. I cut my MF into strips and sleeve it.
wilonstott
Wil O.
just a quick question.. ive never shots slide film before but would like to start. whats the difference between mounted and unmounted?
I also meant to say YES, START.
I think youll love it.
Post shots from your first roll on RFF.
Get a roll of Velvia and go nuts.
Have fun, man. You wont believe it when you get them back from the lab.
dave lackey
Veteran
This is good guys. Ball is rolling.
What can we do on the forum?
How about a specific Sub-Forum that shows up on the main page Side Menu
"Chromes" perhaps or just "E-6"
Now I realize that we may get arguments that C-41 and BW should get theirs as well, but they simply don't need the help that E-6 does.
My thinking is, people see it more, they talk about it more, see more examples, use it more---greater demand and so on.
Small thing, but it's something.
I don't know any admins, but do you guys think this is feasible?
Ninja Edit:
I can't help but think if there had been a specific subforum for Kodachrome a few years before it died that it might still be around.
The Mere-Exposure Effect is something that we simply can't underestimate.
I feel like people simply forget about slide film, and this evolves into seeing slide film as a non-option.
Well, I tried my best to get folks to shoot more Kodachrome but that is taking the hard route getting a ton of slide film going to so many different processing companies.
IMO, we need to get a deal worked out with Precision Camera. How many rolls do they need to make it worthwhile? I would prefer to work with them than anyone else I can think of and besides, why not? They are a sponsor for RFF... we really should be partners in this, don't ya think?
wilonstott
Wil O.
Cool Dave. Great idea. We need to look into this.
Should I do this, or does the forum have an admin that works a a go-between.
What line should we take?
Should I do this, or does the forum have an admin that works a a go-between.
What line should we take?
segedi
RFicianado
After scanning in some slides I shot on 2005, I've recently bought about 50 rolls. Such great quality. I've shot mostly Velvia 50 and Provia 100 but just bought 20 rolls of Sensia from a member in 35mm and look forward to shooting that.
My problem is not shooting as much ... If I go through 20 frames I'm doing great. But it's usually 10 or less per outing. Though 6x7 means I can at least get one roll shot!
35mm is still done locally but 120 is sent to Vancouver. The biggest pro lab here didn't rlace their slide equipment so now it needs to go elsewhere. But at least it's still an option!
My problem is not shooting as much ... If I go through 20 frames I'm doing great. But it's usually 10 or less per outing. Though 6x7 means I can at least get one roll shot!
35mm is still done locally but 120 is sent to Vancouver. The biggest pro lab here didn't rlace their slide equipment so now it needs to go elsewhere. But at least it's still an option!
dallard
Well-known
Precision still lists E6 developing on their website, I assume it's just until they run out of chemicals. Does anybody know when they are discontinuing for good? This is quite a pain since I use them for all my E6 
dallard
Well-known
This thread gets me thinking about picking up a projector. I'm also surprised no one has mentioned NCPS yet.
TXForester
Well-known
I like the idea of small networks to help with processing. I know on ebay you can find used c-41 processors that were used in 1-hour labs. Maybe there are some used e-6 processors for the network. If you had a network, then the it could purchase chemistry in bulk for a lower cost than souping at home. But souping at home will still be part of the overall demand.
Don't discount flckr and look for other sites on the web to get the word out, such as Analogue Photography Users Group (apug.org). Search for blogs to get the word out. A quick google using "i shoot film" found this blog - http://istillshootfilm.org/
Don't discount flckr and look for other sites on the web to get the word out, such as Analogue Photography Users Group (apug.org). Search for blogs to get the word out. A quick google using "i shoot film" found this blog - http://istillshootfilm.org/
TXForester
Well-known
And, if you scan at home, some scanners, like my Epson, can handle three mounted slides at a time.They are mounted so they can be projected.
Brian Puccio
Well-known
A roll of week of Provia. And I just picked up a Leica Pradovit projector and $200 worth of Gepe mounts.
merciless49
I'm scared of clowns
I'm willing to join in on the fray, I've got a few rolls of Velvia burning holes in my camera bag...would be fun, anyway!
zauhar
Veteran
I bought 30 rolls of Velvia over the last two months, and I am processing it myself (no lab does E-6 at reasonable cost here in Philly).
What more could I do, bro? I might be willing to send it to Precision if there is a deal to keep processing.
However, my experience is that once a business makes a decision like this, they really commit to it and there is no turning back.
Randy
What more could I do, bro? I might be willing to send it to Precision if there is a deal to keep processing.
However, my experience is that once a business makes a decision like this, they really commit to it and there is no turning back.
Randy
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
That cheap Agfa CT Precisa (made by Fuji) sure looks like a nice 35mm option. As far as 120 goes, I recently shot some rolls in a Hasselblad. Lovely.

Miss S. in the forest, Hasselblad by Ronald_H, on Flickr

Miss S. in the forest, Hasselblad by Ronald_H, on Flickr
Aristophanes
Well-known
E-6 production depends on Fuji and volume.
Volume = labs.
Big or small, it does not matter.
Local or mail order, it does not matter.
Support the labs.
Home hobby processing cannot make up anywhere near the volume compared to full-fledged labs.
It's very hard to gauge what Fuji might need to keep the emulsion lines running because they don't exactly say how much demand is out there anymore, so that's beyond anyone's control except peripherally.
Giving biz to supportive labs is something critical consumers can do.
Volume = labs.
Big or small, it does not matter.
Local or mail order, it does not matter.
Support the labs.
Home hobby processing cannot make up anywhere near the volume compared to full-fledged labs.
It's very hard to gauge what Fuji might need to keep the emulsion lines running because they don't exactly say how much demand is out there anymore, so that's beyond anyone's control except peripherally.
Giving biz to supportive labs is something critical consumers can do.
TXForester
Well-known
I know I should be impressed by the quality of the photography and film, but Miss S. doesn't hurt the photo. 
wilonstott
Wil O.
E-6 production depends on Fuji and volume.
Volume = labs.
Big or small, it does not matter.
Local or mail order, it does not matter.
Support the labs.
Home hobby processing cannot make up anywhere near the volume compared to full-fledged labs.
It's very hard to gauge what Fuji might need to keep the emulsion lines running because they don't exactly say how much demand is out there anymore, so that's beyond anyone's control except peripherally.
Giving biz to supportive labs is something critical consumers can do.
So do you spread the wealth, or concentrate the flow?
What sends the strongest message?
Or rather, what sends an inflated message?
I mean we can't exactly cook the books on this, but we need to concentrate on something that will get noticed.
I know not everyone can afford to go crazy with E-6.
I'm one of them.
That's why I want to know the cheapest option for process.
However, I feel like if we channeled through something like Precision--or a lab like it--hell it doesn't have to be Precision--that we could make a deal. Maybe the deal is just for E-6. Maybe for a limited time. See if it takes. Try to funnel everything from RFF through some small lab in Whocares/Wherever at a real cut rate. Get everyone on chrome.
Get the lomography people on board.
Get them off the Cross-Process jive.
Spin it to Hipsters with old issues of National Geographic.
Sell prepaid mailers at Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie
Whatever it takes.
wilonstott
Wil O.
I know that all sounds kind of far out, but I really feel like people are missing out on marketing here.
I feel like Kodak could have repackaged and resold Kodachrome to the cool kids with a handful of clever commercials on Mtv and IFC.
Hot chick on a bicycle in Brooklyn with a M3 shooting Kodachrome.
Print ads in Rolling Stone, Esquire, GQ, Vogue, and Spin.
Vintage Kodachrome T-Shirts at Boutiques.
They wouldn't have been able to keep it on the shelves.
Everybody and his hipster sister would have been clamoring for the unmatched 'authenticity' of Kodachrome's image quality.
That can still happen. I feel like it can.
Not for Kodachrome, but for film.
For slide film.
I feel like Kodak could have repackaged and resold Kodachrome to the cool kids with a handful of clever commercials on Mtv and IFC.
Hot chick on a bicycle in Brooklyn with a M3 shooting Kodachrome.
Print ads in Rolling Stone, Esquire, GQ, Vogue, and Spin.
Vintage Kodachrome T-Shirts at Boutiques.
They wouldn't have been able to keep it on the shelves.
Everybody and his hipster sister would have been clamoring for the unmatched 'authenticity' of Kodachrome's image quality.
That can still happen. I feel like it can.
Not for Kodachrome, but for film.
For slide film.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
I know that all sounds kind of far out, but I really feel like people are missing out on marketing here.
I feel like Kodak could have repackaged and resold Kodachrome to the cool kids with a handful of clever commercials on Mtv and IFC.
Hot chick on a bicycle in Brooklyn with a M3 shooting Kodachrome.
Print ads in Rolling Stone, Esquire, GQ, Vogue, and Spin.
Vintage Kodachrome T-Shirts at Boutiques.
They wouldn't have been able to keep it on the shelves.
Everybody and his hipster sister would have been clamoring for the unmatched 'authenticity' of Kodachrome's image quality.
That can still happen. I feel like it can.
Not for Kodachrome, but for film.
For slide film.
Lomography can do it and they don't have nowhere near the reach Kodak could have had. I think you are right with the marketing angle.
wilonstott
Wil O.
This thread gets me thinking about picking up a projector. I'm also surprised no one has mentioned NCPS yet.
I hadn't mentioned them because they cost too much.
I know their work is second to none, but I can't do what the charge for processing and scans.
It would be perfect though, no question about that.
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