chodgson45
Grain is Good
Ladies and Gents I have a question of you;
I love my Moskva-2 but hate the 8 Pictures a roll I can achieve with it. I would like to do 6x6 frames instead of those large, sexy 6x9's from time to time.
However, the Moskva-2 doesn't have the second window to measure out where I'd need to stop winding.
SO - Any suggestions on building a 6x6 mask and winding the film so I don't have overlapping frames?
-Corey
I love my Moskva-2 but hate the 8 Pictures a roll I can achieve with it. I would like to do 6x6 frames instead of those large, sexy 6x9's from time to time.
However, the Moskva-2 doesn't have the second window to measure out where I'd need to stop winding.
SO - Any suggestions on building a 6x6 mask and winding the film so I don't have overlapping frames?
-Corey
oftheherd
Veteran
A lot of experimentation?
It might be more fun to get a Moskva 5 and buy a mask for it. Or if you are certain you like 6x6 that much, consider one of the good but inexpensive 6x6 folders or TLRs.
It might be more fun to get a Moskva 5 and buy a mask for it. Or if you are certain you like 6x6 that much, consider one of the good but inexpensive 6x6 folders or TLRs.
pakeha
Well-known
its been done, there was a moskva 2 on e-bay recently that had been converted, also a couple of Iskra converted for 6x4.5. I would imagine you just measure the frame numbers from some backing paper and find a donor window from another camera.Carefully drill the correct size hole using backing paper as a template,make the hole slightly undersize and ensure light sealed.Any donor camera would do.The mask can be made from black cardboard - there is a web page somewhere showing how to. just google `making 6x6 mask for camera. Or you could just get a moskva 4.The 5 is known for weak struts.
oftheherd
Veteran
its been done, there was a moskva 2 on e-bay recently that had been converted, also a couple of Iskra converted for 6x4.5. I would imagine you just measure the frame numbers from some backing paper and find a donor window from another camera.Carefully drill the correct size hole using backing paper as a template,make the hole slightly undersize and ensure light sealed.Any donor camera would do.The mask can be made from black cardboard - there is a web page somewhere showing how to. just google `making 6x6 mask for camera. Or you could just get a moskva 4.The 5 is known for weak struts.
Awwwwgh. I wish you hadn't told me that. I thought mine had been modified for tilt.
pakeha
Well-known
Awwwwgh. I wish you hadn't told me that. I thought mine had been modified for tilt.![]()
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then again could be just another FSU/internet rumour
Muggins
Junk magnet
its been done, there was a moskva 2 on e-bay recently that had been converted, also a couple of Iskra converted for 6x4.5. etc
And I have a Moskva-4 with which I can take 6x4.5, 6x6 or 6x9 as the mood takes me - though the mask for 6x4.5 has been so neatly converted that I couldn't easily undo it, and spent ages looking for an unmodified 6x6 one!
Note that the Moskva-4 mask is a very different beast to the Moskva-5 one.
Adrian
pakeha
Well-known
And I have a Moskva-4 with which I can take 6x4.5, 6x6 or 6x9 as the mood takes me - though the mask for 6x4.5 has been so neatly converted that I couldn't easily undo it, and spent ages looking for an unmodified 6x6 one!
Note that the Moskva-4 mask is a very different beast to the Moskva-5 one.
Adrian
Think there was a 4 on e-bay with three windows also.The sellor stated he was not sure what the 3rd window was for - well if he could not work that out there was no point asking ang technical questions:bang:I have been thinking of doing this myself. Your 4.5 mask - is it a converted 6x6 mask? I am thinking that simply making small panels to fit on the bellows side of a 6x6 mask would do. Any chance of a photo of your camera with 4.5 inserted?
Muggins
Junk magnet
Your 4.5 mask - is it a converted 6x6 mask? I am thinking that simply making small panels to fit on the bellows side of a 6x6 mask would do. Any chance of a photo of your camera with 4.5 inserted?
Yes, it's a 6x6 mask with two brass panels inserted and the ends neatly tabbed and folded over.
Happy to take a photo but please send a PM or email (or both!) through RFF - that way I'm more likely to be reminded by seeing it in my emails, and you are more likley to poke me into action - being busy, stressed, and disorganised is a bad combination!
ETA - drat, still got half a film in it - will have to try to shift it in the next week or two!
Adrian
pakeha
Well-known
Yes, it's a 6x6 mask with two brass panels inserted and the ends neatly tabbed and folded over.
Happy to take a photo but please send a PM or email (or both!) through RFF - that way I'm more likely to be reminded by seeing it in my emails, and you are more likley to poke me into action - being busy, stressed, and disorganised is a bad combination!
ETA - drat, still got half a film in it - will have to try to shift it in the next week or two!
Adrian
No problem, looks like we work for a similar outfit, your explanation has described how I thought I would go about it.
regards CW
Muggins
Junk magnet
Pakeha - fiklm finished, will try to get pics online tonight.
Adrian
Adrian
Muggins
Junk magnet
Here we go (dig that barrel distortion!).
Mask in camera:
Back of camera:
The pressure plate:
Finally, the 6x6 and the 6x4.5 masks together:
Adrian
Mask in camera:

Back of camera:

The pressure plate:

Finally, the 6x6 and the 6x4.5 masks together:

Adrian
pakeha
Well-known
thanks Adrian, as I thought not really that differcult to do, and a tidy job has been done on yours.The pressure plate drilling would be most critical I guess.
Little side story. Thanks for putting these up..good resource
regards
CW
Little side story. Thanks for putting these up..good resource
regards
CW
Muggins
Junk magnet
My pleasure, CW. The only place where his skills deserted him was the viewfinder - there's a pop-up 6x6 mask in it already, and he could only come up with fitting two pieces of card in the rear glass. Other than that, it's beautifully done!
Adrian
Adrian
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