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For fans of the Carl Zeiss family of ZM systems for rangefinder cameras, Carl Zeiss has a special surprise in store. In 2013, at least one fast lens with M bayonet will go on sale. Using lenses from the ZM series with adapters is also very popular on mirrorless system cameras.

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Considering the crossover to mirrorless, I'd think it a 24mm, 25mm or 28mm in f/2.0 or faster. Zeiss has been fond of 25mm (as am I) as a focal length.

Since the fast Leica's at those lengths also cost a fortune, I bet there is significant middle ground.

To minimize color shift and corner problems, I guess they would aim for 28mm. But boy would I love something around 35mm f1.4 or f/2.0 equivalent that would work on a NEX! And that lens would have to start life at wider than 28...
 
Extremely interesting. A new high end range of ZF and ZE slr lenses - that 55mm f1.4 is VERY interesting.

+ announcing AF lenses for mirrorless cameras!

+ the M mount fast lens!

This is more exciting than the other manufacturers announcements!
 
hope it's either one of these:

50 1.4
35 1.4
28 2

Yes, I think the rangefinder sweet spot is here. I hope Zeiss understands that, this time around, and doesn't come up with some exotic 25/2, 90/2, etc lens.

Why not try to cater to the middle part of the Gauss curve for a change? :D
 
Yes, I think the rangefinder sweet spot is here. I hope Zeiss understands that, this time around, and doesn't come up with some exotic 25/2, 90/2, etc lens.

Why not try to cater to the middle part of the Gauss curve for a change? :D

With a me-too lens? Why?

Cheers,

R.
 
Considering the crossover to mirrorless, I'd think it a 24mm, 25mm or 28mm in f/2.0 or faster. Zeiss has been fond of 25mm (as am I) as a focal length.

Since the fast Leica's at those lengths also cost a fortune, I bet there is significant middle ground.

To minimize color shift and corner problems, I guess they would aim for 28mm. But boy would I love something around 35mm f1.4 or f/2.0 equivalent that would work on a NEX! And that lens would have to start life at wider than 28...

But of course Zeiss already has the 24/1.8 Sonnar for the Nex (=36/1.8).
And I can attest that it functions beautifully.
 
Anyhow the lens will be announced on the 18th and will be available early 2013, so it's not like we can do anything about it. However, 11 days is a very long time.....
 
I think you misunderstood my remark: I just wanted to suggest to stick to a focal length that would be most useful to rangefinder users: 35/50

Another exotic 15/2.8 or 85/2 is not needed, IMHO

Cheers, Horea

Dear Horea,

No, I see your point: I just don't agree. There are LOTS of really good 35mm and 50mm lenses, old and new, so it's a VERY crowded market segment. The 1,5/50 C-Sonnar is different enough, but really, where's the need for another (conventionally) very good 50 or 35?

Alas, it would probably not be safe to couple the new 2/135...

Cheers,

R.
 
<<I believe we are missing a middle priced, middle sized high quality and fast 35.>>
CV 35 Nokton and 1.4 and 1.7 don't qualify here? (Of course I don't know which of these is still in production...)

I think they might surprise everybody with a 40mm or a 75mm. If not those then I'm guessing 25, which has been a specialty of theirs. Or maybe a 50/1.0?
 
Dear Horea,

No, I see your point: I just don't agree. There are LOTS of really good 35mm and 50mm lenses, old and new, so it's a VERY crowded market segment. The 1,5/50 C-Sonnar is different enough, but really, where's the need for another (conventionally) very good 50 or 35?

Alas, it would probably not be safe to couple the new 2/135...

Cheers,

R.

Roger,
Sorry, but I disagree..
There are some excellent 35 f/1.4, 50 f/1.4 and 28 f/2 but they are all Leica and cost an eye.
The only one to compete in this segment is VC with lenses that are far from being that good (Not as sharp, plagued by distortion or by QC issues), or the Sonnar with it's inherent limitations (focus shift, min focus distance).
I am sure these lenses have their afficionados (Nokton 1.2, Sonnar etc..), but they are not a true competition to a Summilux 50 ASPH or a 28mm Summicron.
Proposing a cheaper option of something that is already available IS something important in my eyes.
 
Dear Horea,

No, I see your point: I just don't agree. There are LOTS of really good 35mm and 50mm lenses, old and new, so it's a VERY crowded market segment. The 1,5/50 C-Sonnar is different enough, but really, where's the need for another (conventionally) very good 50 or 35?

Alas, it would probably not be safe to couple the new 2/135...

Cheers,


R.

Dear Roger,
will all due respect, I say YES: there is a clear need for another good 35/50 1.4 lenses, My arguments:

1) There are basically two high-performance (on digital bodies speaking) 35/1.4 lenses: The current Summilux and the Nokton (1.2). Both have significant shortcomings.

- The first still has focus-shift (it was quite clear with my two copies on the M9. I now have a third copy but use it on analog bodies). Plus it costs a lot. Sizewise, however, it is perfect.

- The Nokton does not suffer from focus shift, but is very bulky.

=> what is needed is a new lens, with a lower price than the 'Lux, less hefty than the Nokton and with high performance. In the latter regards I trust Zeiss: their currently developed ZM lenses have no focus shift and are really optimized for digital bodies. The exception is the C-Sonnar, but this is an old formula. I don'w know if Zeiss can deliver that in a smaller sized body than the Nokton, though

2) The are currently, in production exactly two 1.4/1.5 50mm lenses: the Summilux and the C-Sonnar (the Nokton discontinued, as far as I know).

I think there is quite a difference between the two, performance-wise, price-wise, etc. The gap is huge: there is clearly room for a 50/1.4 Planar, IMHO

I think that the 35/1.4 lens is the better choice for Zeiss to make: usable on APS-C and mirrorless bodies, but on a FF rangefinder system, too, an all-round lens.

Just my opinion.

Cheers, Horea
 
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