totifoto
Well-known
9) video capability with a bottom of body add-on module
hope that is true, getting bored with all these built in video stuff. less is more in my opinion.
hope that is true, getting bored with all these built in video stuff. less is more in my opinion.
Moriturii
Well-known
Oh my god, Optical Viewfinder, Full frame sensor, I must be in the year 2023!!
Small (but good looking) viewfinder with no eye relief what so ever. Leica even goes so far to chicken out that they make the side of the viewfinder where you look through a tiny tiny rectangle that so the user has no possibility what so ever to put his eye in the wrong spot and thus can't blame leica for making crappy viewfinders, which is where the Konica Engineers failed leicaphiles say.
Sensor with absolutely abysmal ISO performance but fine IQ, both of which are now in the dust of other and better sensor manufacturers like Sony/Canon/Nikon.
What ever Leica comes out with will be a cute little niche thing that has been done a generation or two ago. You thought for one second Leica was an innovative company that is on the fore-front of camera manufacturing and engineering? You funny
. Do you for one second think whatever sensor they use will be better that what ever Sony/Nikon/Canon has?They are the king of optics though, in my opinion.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
So do I... the only one I'm unsure about is the extra video module (they could have it built-in as far as I'm concerned).
I also like the suggestion made elsewhere that Leica should put a bottle opener on the base.
Paul T.
Veteran
What ever Leica comes out with will be a cute little niche thing that has been done a generation or two ago. You thought for one second Leica was an innovative company that is on the fore-front of camera manufacturing and engineering? You funny
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You don't know what I think. I won't buy an M10; Leica are a small, boutique company who offer something entirely different from their giant rivals. Low light performance on the M9 is poor, and it's expensive; but there's nothing else like it.
Yes, they're a niche design. Does your constant griping at Leica mean you'd rather they weren't around?
As for whether it's the very latest sensor - who really cares? The current sensor will give good enough performance to, say, get you a spread in National Geographic. It's the ergonomics of a camera that matter more to most photographers, apart from a hardcore of pixel-peepers and spec-obsessives.
zvos1
Well-known
+1
I agree 100%.
It seems like lot of people are shooting black cats in a coal mine at night. Otherwise they would not need useable iso 25600 so desperately. I am perfectly happy with iso 1250 on my M8 coverted to black and white.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
No RFF for me the next week.
If you come looking for me, I'm the dressed-in-black guy tinkering in the dark with the traditional silver-halide stuff.
After that week we'll see.
If you come looking for me, I'm the dressed-in-black guy tinkering in the dark with the traditional silver-halide stuff.
After that week we'll see.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
All of them plausible and fair. But let's not forget:
14) Intertoobes fora (forumses?
) inundated with apocalyptic threads full of grumpy counter-replies.
BobYIL
Well-known
This part is making me wonder: Will it be from STMicroelectronics as planned initially or the 24MP Sony due to the failed project?
Joosep
Well-known
This made my day. Thank you !
Eric T
Well-known
The M10 really needs some sort of sensor cleaning mechanism. My M8 is a magnet for dust and there was no improvement on the M9.
swoop
Well-known
I also like the suggestion made elsewhere that Leica should put a bottle opener on the base.
All kidding aside, it would be totally awesome if you could take off the bottom plate and on the inside was a bottle opener. Or for the film users, canister opener.
robklurfield
eclipse
Bargain priced M9's? Hurry up with the M10 then.
Has anyone started a "What do you want to see in the M11" thread yet? I've put in a pre-order for my iPhone 7.
Actually, what would make me happy is if the M10 drives down used MP prices.
Has anyone started a "What do you want to see in the M11" thread yet? I've put in a pre-order for my iPhone 7.
Actually, what would make me happy is if the M10 drives down used MP prices.
Teuthida
Well-known
Needs a CAT mode or I'm not buying
BobYIL
Well-known
The price of the future FF-Mirrorless is around $2000...
The MSRP of the D600 has been announced as $2.096; a clear indication of where the prices of the FF cameras are going to stabilize, at least for the prosumer class right after the first half of 2013. Another hint is the estimated price of the Sony RX-1 body, ex-lens it should be again below $2000 (assuming the Sonnar 35/2 would cost at least $800.)
Let's bear in mind that these cameras feature a state-of-art 24MP FF sensor capable of above ISO 12800 region, equipped with state-of-art processor engines and presumably highly sophisticated AF systems. Looking at the 2.3MP EVF systems shared by the Nex and Olympus models and the X2; kevlar and carbon fiber bladed shutter introduced in the D600, I can't help asking: What else do we need for a state-of-art FF mirrorless? (These are years ahead of the technologies used in the M9 series...)
All these tell me that the price of the new future "FF mirrorless" has been somewhat "settled" for around $2.000. From tomorrow on we will be seeing what the new M10 would look like.. I know for sure that it will not cost $4.000 or $6.000, it probably will cost $8.000 or even more. This is not so important, however I am wondering of one certain thing: By being the most expensive one how much technology would the M10 bring over the ones above?
The MSRP of the D600 has been announced as $2.096; a clear indication of where the prices of the FF cameras are going to stabilize, at least for the prosumer class right after the first half of 2013. Another hint is the estimated price of the Sony RX-1 body, ex-lens it should be again below $2000 (assuming the Sonnar 35/2 would cost at least $800.)
Let's bear in mind that these cameras feature a state-of-art 24MP FF sensor capable of above ISO 12800 region, equipped with state-of-art processor engines and presumably highly sophisticated AF systems. Looking at the 2.3MP EVF systems shared by the Nex and Olympus models and the X2; kevlar and carbon fiber bladed shutter introduced in the D600, I can't help asking: What else do we need for a state-of-art FF mirrorless? (These are years ahead of the technologies used in the M9 series...)
All these tell me that the price of the new future "FF mirrorless" has been somewhat "settled" for around $2.000. From tomorrow on we will be seeing what the new M10 would look like.. I know for sure that it will not cost $4.000 or $6.000, it probably will cost $8.000 or even more. This is not so important, however I am wondering of one certain thing: By being the most expensive one how much technology would the M10 bring over the ones above?
eoeaa
Member
A hunch: it will not be called "M10."
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Exactly .... it will be called the MC (C for colour).
It will also only be available in hammertone and will be known affectionately by the poor sods who buy it as the 'MC Hammer!'
