dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Just throwing this out there before I decide to venture and spend time/money in creating one (I'd have to buy the 24 colour checker etc.) but does anyone have or use (or created for use/distribution) a camera profile for their Fuji X-Pro1?
These are the profiles that are used within Lighroom or ACR.
Cheers,
Dave
These are the profiles that are used within Lighroom or ACR.
Cheers,
Dave
willie_901
Veteran
I don't have one.
Did you check the Adobe websites to see if a some submitted a user created camera calibration profile?
I find Adobe's on-line customer resources to be a maze capable of bringing grown men to tears and a black hole for time... so I haven't looked myself.
Did you check the Adobe websites to see if a some submitted a user created camera calibration profile?
I find Adobe's on-line customer resources to be a maze capable of bringing grown men to tears and a black hole for time... so I haven't looked myself.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Willie,
I just googled for it - "Fuji X-Pro1 Camera Profile Lightroom" but all I got were a few broken links and questions about it in various forums (DPReview). I know that these things are not necessarily "universal" per se but if someone had created one that would be a bit different than Adobe's standard profile it would be interesting to see and perhaps use. If not.. I'll go through the process of creating one (eventually) and I'll distribute it accordingly.
Cheers,
Dave
I just googled for it - "Fuji X-Pro1 Camera Profile Lightroom" but all I got were a few broken links and questions about it in various forums (DPReview). I know that these things are not necessarily "universal" per se but if someone had created one that would be a bit different than Adobe's standard profile it would be interesting to see and perhaps use. If not.. I'll go through the process of creating one (eventually) and I'll distribute it accordingly.
Cheers,
Dave
sam_m
Well-known
just curious, but what is the process of creating one?
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Basically, I have to shoot a 24 colour target (such as this thing: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465286-REG/X_Rite_MSCCC_Original_ColorChecker_Card.html ); import the Fuji RAW file into LR or ACR and export it "as is" in DNG format.
Download Adobe DNG Editor; open up the DNG and build the profile for the camera accordingly.
I can, as well, then adjust said profile to accommodate for things like landscapes or portraits - it completely opens up a number of possibilities in the RAW workflow.
Here's a good "how to" tutorial:
http://www.dpbestflow.org/color/camera-profiling
What prompted me to ask this question is noting the different profiles that exist for my Nikon D700 - because either they came with the camera RAW files or with LR but I honestly don't think they were shipped with LR. These profiles do not exist for Fuji; so they would need to be created.
Cheers
Dave
basthijssen
Member
One thing is that in the profile you can have automatic lens correction. The jpg's are corrected but the RAW files aren't corrected.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Resurrecting this thread as I've sort of figured out how this works - for anyone using Lightroom as a RAW converter for the X-Pro1 here's something interesting to note.
I've built a couple profiles but it's pretty evident to me that the raw files out of the camera via Lightroom are pretty, well, "normal" looking.
It took some playing around with my D700 in Lightroom to figure out that there are custom profiles which exist for the D700 (I always knew they were there but rarely used them) which can be applied to a variety of images/situations that a photographer may want/encounter.
I had noted that the Fuji X-Pro1 was lacking any profiles within Lightroom. So, I went ahead and bought a 24 colour target (X-Rite Color Checker Passport) and decided to play around a bit. The Color Checker Passport comes with software and plug-ins for LightRoom which will assist in building profiles for the camera. You can also download the Adobe DNG Profile Editor direct from Adobe and it too can assist in building profiles as long as you have a 24 colour target. I've tried both methods and they're both an improvement over the Adobe Standard profile (in my opinion) but the Adobe DNG Profile editor produces "better" (for the lack of better wording) profiles for the camera however YMMV.
If you are unfamiliar as to where to locate the profiles in Lightroom; they can be found within the "Develop" module, on the far right hand side under the "Camera Calibration" panel. They are within the "Profile" drop down.
Here is a "before" sample of a Fuji RAW image converted to jpeg and resized for the web via Lightroom and Photoshop:
And here is the exactly same image after applying my "Fuji X-Pro1 Daylight Overcast" profile:
I usually apply the camera profiles before doing any further adjustments to the image (i.e. before adjusting exposure, highlight recovery, etc.)
My plan now is to create profiles for each type of shooting scenario such as daylight direct sun, daylight shade, night, interior available fluorescent, interior available tungsten, flash bounce, flash direct and so on.
Cheers,
Dave
I've built a couple profiles but it's pretty evident to me that the raw files out of the camera via Lightroom are pretty, well, "normal" looking.
It took some playing around with my D700 in Lightroom to figure out that there are custom profiles which exist for the D700 (I always knew they were there but rarely used them) which can be applied to a variety of images/situations that a photographer may want/encounter.
I had noted that the Fuji X-Pro1 was lacking any profiles within Lightroom. So, I went ahead and bought a 24 colour target (X-Rite Color Checker Passport) and decided to play around a bit. The Color Checker Passport comes with software and plug-ins for LightRoom which will assist in building profiles for the camera. You can also download the Adobe DNG Profile Editor direct from Adobe and it too can assist in building profiles as long as you have a 24 colour target. I've tried both methods and they're both an improvement over the Adobe Standard profile (in my opinion) but the Adobe DNG Profile editor produces "better" (for the lack of better wording) profiles for the camera however YMMV.
If you are unfamiliar as to where to locate the profiles in Lightroom; they can be found within the "Develop" module, on the far right hand side under the "Camera Calibration" panel. They are within the "Profile" drop down.
Here is a "before" sample of a Fuji RAW image converted to jpeg and resized for the web via Lightroom and Photoshop:
And here is the exactly same image after applying my "Fuji X-Pro1 Daylight Overcast" profile:
I usually apply the camera profiles before doing any further adjustments to the image (i.e. before adjusting exposure, highlight recovery, etc.)
My plan now is to create profiles for each type of shooting scenario such as daylight direct sun, daylight shade, night, interior available fluorescent, interior available tungsten, flash bounce, flash direct and so on.
Cheers,
Dave
GaryLH
Veteran
Very interesting update.
Thanks
Gary
Thanks
Gary
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I believe, after I create these profiles, I'll make them available to folks who are interested or wish to try them for themselves. I just have to get around to making the profiles first for the various shooting scenarios. I can then adjust accordingly similar to the D700 profiles and perhaps even create them for "Portrait", "Landscape", "Street" etc.
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave
JRG
Well-known
Very interesting indeed! I'm sure that there will be an audience, if you make them available. Thanks!
gavinlg
Veteran
One thing I noticed about the x-pro1 RAWs was that in a lot of situations the blue channel is WAAAY oversaturated and requires the luminosity increased too. I think there are a lot of people on fuji-x-forums and dpreview that would appreciate your efforts Dave!
Sounds great Dave.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Thanks folks.. I think, based on just my meager knowledge of all this, that the Adobe DNG Profile Editor offers a lot more functionality when creating the custom camera profiles for Lightroom over the Color Checker Passport Plug-in/Application.
Once the Color Table is built (thanks to using the color target) the ability to manipulate the individual color values that make up the target image is pretty cool and offers a wealth of possibilities. All of this, of course, just makes the whole post processing/raw conversion a lot easier.
If you shoot jpeg out of the camera then this stuff I'm talking about is pretty pointless (at least I think it is...)
Cheers,
Dave
Once the Color Table is built (thanks to using the color target) the ability to manipulate the individual color values that make up the target image is pretty cool and offers a wealth of possibilities. All of this, of course, just makes the whole post processing/raw conversion a lot easier.
If you shoot jpeg out of the camera then this stuff I'm talking about is pretty pointless (at least I think it is...)
Cheers,
Dave
GaryLH
Veteran
Thanks Dave.
Gary
Gary
willie_901
Veteran
I appreciate the update and all the information everyone as shared.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
It's been a while - but here's a recent side by side comparison - using "RAW + JPEG" setting in camera
Full size image right here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_nexus/8387283563/
RAW in LR with custom color profiles on the left; JPEG right out of the camera on the right.
Cheers,
Dave
Full size image right here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_nexus/8387283563/
RAW in LR with custom color profiles on the left; JPEG right out of the camera on the right.
Cheers,
Dave
2WK
Rangefinder User
Looking good! I would love to beta test this profile!
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
I really should make some of these available huh..
Dave
Dave
scottm
Member
looking good
looking good
any chance you can let us have the profile?
looking good
any chance you can let us have the profile?
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Let me clean up the current profiles I have on my drive - I had to run through a bit of testing - I'll make them available and post here once they're ready (and by "post here" I mean I'll make a post in this forum - not necessarily in this thread but definitely in the Fuji X-Pro1/X-E1 forum)
Cheers,
Dave