Instagram is Changing Their Terms

Damaso said:
It is quite clear. They can use your content in an advert without paying you...
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I have a facebook page but never use it. I will never put any of my work on a social media site and I make sure others know to post my images on these rights grabbing sites.

Maybe if half a million or so photographers would coordinate and post photos of a pile of dog feces on their "phototheft" (facebook) pages on the same day, these leeches would get the point. :D
 
PKR said:
Nothing is free.. Nothing in Silicon Valley anyway.. you get what you pay for.

From A Photo Editor:

"Instagram Plans To Sell Your Photos Commercially Without Paying You"

http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2012/12...-your-photos-commercially-without-paying-you/
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yes, but is not FB/Instagram free to use and store?
I really dont` get all this angst.People know what they are entering into when signing up for these places...then SHOCK, HORROR its a business, not something totally free afterall, come on folks are you all that stupid?
You would have to be complete fool to be in a professional situation and putting up images that anyone can use.If you are just a hobbist then surely the kudos would suffice - if, and only if for some fantastic reason YOUR image was the chosen one out of millions.
And yes , gen y dont give a s$%@ - the instant 2 minutes of internet fame will do them, they got bigger stuff to fret over...sheeeesh:bang:
 
I was talking to a young girl at the local shops this morning and asked her if she'd heard about Instagram and asked her if she used it. Yes she'd heard the news and did use it herself but also made what I thought was an interesting comment.

"Losing the rights to the sort of rubbish my friends and I post on it isn't really an issue ... we're not artists, just kids having fun!"

Out of the mouths of babes as they say! In other words the fact that a few photographers have got their knickers in a twist over all this means little to Instagram and it's future plans!
 
http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening

"Instead it was interpreted by many that we were going to sell your photos to others without any compensation. This is not true and it is our mistake that this language is confusing. To be clear: it is not our intention to sell your photos. We are working on updated language in the terms to make sure this is clear.

To provide context, we envision a future where both users and brands alike may promote their photos & accounts to increase engagement and to build a more meaningful following. Let’s say a business wanted to promote their account to gain more followers and Instagram was able to feature them in some way. In order to help make a more relevant and useful promotion, it would be helpful to see which of the people you follow also follow this business. In this way, some of the data you produce — like the actions you take (eg, following the account) and your profile photo — might show up if you are following this business."

resume normal activities.
 
I have heard of Instagram but don't know what it is, and for some reason I am quite happy about that.
 
Note to self: Develop an app that embeds a copyright in the middle of all of your Instagram photos.
 
No problem. Just upload, immediately delete from stream. Copy still in camera roll on phone. Add copyright notice and upload again. ;)

Personally I'm going to opt out. Not that I have much of worth on Instagram, but I deplore stealing, which this in fact is.
 
pakeha said:
Just a query. Does instagram/FB charge any storage fees for images?
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Nope. But to touch on the unspelled-out point: are users free to change their minds when instagram/FB change theirs?

Furthermore, if using Starbucks' Wi-Fi is free, would you agree to let them sell all your communications for commercials, or would you just go elsewhere?
 
Gabriel M.A. said:
New TOS remains unchanged. Instead of them saying "hey! we don't mean to..." with their mouth, they should state "hey! we legally swear we won't..." with their pen.
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That is a pretty common state of affairs regarding social media. Of course they are not going to obviously steal from their customer base in regular operations, as that would be bad for the business. But having their customer base waive all rights to their content creates a nice set of dormant assets as a exit option (i.e. to sell, pawn or otherwise convert once the investors cash in). Accordingly even a public outcry against it will increase the stock value...
 
Ezzie said:
No problem. Just upload, immediately delete from stream. Copy still in camera roll on phone. Add copyright notice and upload again. ;)

Personally I'm going to opt out. Not that I have much of worth on Instagram, but I deplore stealing, which this in fact is.
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I, luckily, had my setup from the beginning to store everything in my removable micro SD card, so I already had a backup of everything, including the pre-processed shot. Obviously you can't do that with an iPhone, but I have an Android phone (and tablet).

I'd been using Vignette to do the shot and uploading that to Instagram, so I can just do that onto my Flickr account if I wanted to, but as far as the "sharing community experience" goes, it's not quite the same.

This is a great opportunity for a new provider to do what Instagram failed and Hipstamatic refuses to do: provide a friendly alternative to the huge Android market. Although they may get bought by the likes of Macrohard and FB; money is always such a fruit of discord...
 
Didn't Flickr just release their mobile app last week? If I was in charge of Flickr, I'd be trying my best to win over users now.
 
EDIT: I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

From a legal standpoint, this is very interesting. In the U.S., copyright transfers have very specific requirements, which are enforceable in a court of law. There is no such thing as a blanket permission to use someone's work - the exact copyrighted item has to be spelled out clearly, except in a work-for-hire relationship.

Legally, Instagram cannot do what the Terms of Service said they were going to do. There's lots of hungry lawyers out there just itching for them to try, I am certain of that.

I saw where Instagram kind of backpedaled, but they better talk to a lawyer before they try this, and then get sued for the whole value of the company.
 
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Gabriel M.A. said:
I, luckily, had my setup from the beginning to store everything in my removable micro SD card, so I already had a backup of everything, including the pre-processed shot. Obviously you can't do that with an iPhone, but I have an Android phone (and tablet).
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Uploads to Instagram appear in your camera roll on the Iphone so you can save them on an external device. Thing is (with the latest Instagram version) upload first then it will appear in the camera roll.

28mm said:
Didn't Flickr just release their mobile app last week? If I was in charge of Flickr, I'd be trying my best to win over users now.
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I would be very glad to get that app that is not available in Japan still ...:bang:
 
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