Switching from TMZ to Delta3200

[haempe]

Notes or hints to shorten up the familiarization-process?

I used to use TMZ @3200 in TMaxDev. But I'm open to other developers, as long it's not DD-X (too pricey in the long term).

Each remark is appreciated. The film is simply too pricey for try and error...

TIA

 

[Roger Hicks]

Grainier; sharper; about /3 stop more true speed, maximum speed in DD-X (sorry!) or Microphen (slighlty faster if anything). DON'T use Rodinal: low speed, huge grain.

I switched to Delta 3200 as soon as it came out (slightly before, in fact, as I was a tester/early reviewer for the film) as I much prefer the tonality.

Many users (including me) prefer to rate the film at one-half the speed that matches the developing time, e.g. expose at 1600/develop for 3200, expose at 3200, develop for 6400, etc.

It handles overexposure VERY gracefully, regardless of development time.

Cheers,

R.

 

[lawrence]

I've used it quite a bit but to be honest it's a film I've never really warmed to and certainly don't prefer to TMZ. It gives a restricted range of tones and is probably ideal for concert photography where you're likely to encounter very high contrast but not much use for anything else. Basically it's an ugly film that I will avoid in future, preferring the look of Tri-X pushed in stock D76. As Roger says, DD-X or Microphen are the way to go for maximum speed or, if you prefer Kodak, use TMax. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts after you've tried a few rolls.

 

[haempe]

Thank You, Roger!

Thank You, lawrence!
After the demise of TMZ it seems the only choice in the future.
And yes, my main application for high speed film is stage photography.


Someone good (or not good) experience with Delta3200 in TMaxDev or Xtol?

 

[Chriscrawfordphoto]

Delta 3200 processes beautifully in Tmax Developer. I shoot it at both 1600 and 3200 using Ilford's developing times for those speeds.

EI-1600

EI-3200

 

[anjoca76]

Chris, you always have terrific photographs. Nice examples, as usual.

 

[haempe]

Thank You, Chris.

Looks promising, I think I'll start with TMaxDev.
It seems reasonable to me first of all to change only one variable.

 

[Athiril]

Delta 3200 @ 1600 in Perceptol is really nice.

 

[Pablito]

looks like you may have some reticulation going on in that cement mixer shot.

 

[jawarden]

I'm another who likes D3200 with extra developing. I usually expose at 1600 and develop for 3200. I use DDX but I know that doesn't help you that much.

It's a great film. Wish I could use it more!

 

[haempe]

Thanks all!
Much appreciated.

 

[Photo_Smith]

I like it in medium format, 135 is grainy and needs a speed increasing developer like Microphen, DDX etc to realise 3200EI (it's a 1000-1250 ISO designed to push)

Perversely (I know many disagree) I love it developed in Rodinal in MF only.

pushed to 6400 (meter for emerging detail stop down 2 stops)

12,800 (meter for emerging detail stop down 2 stops)

 

[finitud]

Contrary to what (nearly) everyone says, I actually like the grainy images you get by developing in Rodinal. To keep grain to reasonable levels, use it very diluted (1+50 or 1+100), and with very little agitation (3 inversions every 5 minutes or so, or semistand).

Or use expired film stored in very bad conditions and develop with Rodinal 1+25 at a slightly high temperature (maybe 24 deg) to get REALLY GRAINY pictures 😉

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyanpowers/8459495560/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyanpowers/8459495144/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyanpowers/8459494724/

 

[Nokton48]

Perceptol = Microdol-X, which I am in the process of rediscovering. 1600 is my target EI with this film.

Very encouraging photos being posted here.

Been shooting 120 3200 Delta and souping in DDX.

 

[back alley]

i loved it in my mamiya 6...dev. in dd-x shot at 1000.

 

[N.delaRua]

I just shot two rolls of Illford 3200 at a concert in dimly lit bar. It was a real challenge even exposing at 3200. Just to get a meter reading I had to often point towards something bright and guesstimate exposure from there.

In other words, I was not very careful with exposure, and I have no clue what my exposure ranges were. Some frames are total misses, but in such an environment with some booze involved, I was greatly impressed by its latitude.

I am sure this is not the sloppy answer you are looking for, but I have also shot Tmax 3200. To me they are both specialty films although I have seen some people use them underated with less grainy results.

I think the web size images lie about these films though... they are grainy especially when printed. I always thought Tmax 3200 look like security film.

Here are some examples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28732091@N06/

Shooting illford 3200 makes me laugh hysterically at the arguments over noise control in high ISO digital cameras, if only they knew how "good" they have it.

 

[emjo]

Kodak's take http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/o3/o3.pdf

 

[Chriscrawfordphoto]

I just shot two rolls of Illford 3200 at a concert in dimly lit bar. It was a real challenge even exposing at 3200. Just to get a meter reading I had to often point towards something bright and guesstimate exposure from there.

In other words, I was not very careful with exposure, and I have no clue what my exposure ranges were. Some frames are total misses, but in such an environment with some booze involved, I was greatly impressed by its latitude.

I am sure this is not the sloppy answer you are looking for, but I have also shot Tmax 3200. To me they are both specialty films although I have seen some people use them underated with less grainy results.

I think the web size images lie about these films though... they are grainy especially when printed. I always thought Tmax 3200 look like security film.

Here are some examples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28732091@N06/

Shooting illford 3200 makes me laugh hysterically at the arguments over noise control in high ISO digital cameras, if only they knew how "good" they have it.

Mine look gorgeous and sharp in prints. They have more grain than max 400 but its not a lot more than Tri-X if processed and exposed carefully.