abumac
Well-known
Whre could I find the profils for Noise Ninja an R-D1?
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
Noise Ninja is an essential part of my workflow.
I almost always dup the background layer at the beginning of my print making process and apply Noise Ninja with it default settings to every image I work on -- whether it be digital or film regardless of ISO.
NN will soften some of the details but these are later recovered using the Smart Sharpen filter -- and *ESSENTIAL* making the final print using Qimage software. There is no comparison between the quality (ie., detail, crispness) of prints from Qimage vs. from PS alone.
Sure there are times when I do not use NN (ie., when the original image is supposed to be grainy) or if I feel that there is no particular benefit on a given image. But that is the exception rather than the rule.
I have also found that PS CS2's Dust & Scratches filter is great at removing speckles from the shadow areas when applied selectively (especially after sharpening) where there is not a lot of detail to worry about. This results in prints looking much more photographic in shadow areas.
I am going to a Sante Fe workshop in a couple of weeks to take an advanced PS class for photographers because I'm know that there is SO much more to know about how to use this tool to make exhibition quality prints.
But I gotta believe that Noise Ninja will always remain an important tool.
I almost always dup the background layer at the beginning of my print making process and apply Noise Ninja with it default settings to every image I work on -- whether it be digital or film regardless of ISO.
NN will soften some of the details but these are later recovered using the Smart Sharpen filter -- and *ESSENTIAL* making the final print using Qimage software. There is no comparison between the quality (ie., detail, crispness) of prints from Qimage vs. from PS alone.
Sure there are times when I do not use NN (ie., when the original image is supposed to be grainy) or if I feel that there is no particular benefit on a given image. But that is the exception rather than the rule.
I have also found that PS CS2's Dust & Scratches filter is great at removing speckles from the shadow areas when applied selectively (especially after sharpening) where there is not a lot of detail to worry about. This results in prints looking much more photographic in shadow areas.
I am going to a Sante Fe workshop in a couple of weeks to take an advanced PS class for photographers because I'm know that there is SO much more to know about how to use this tool to make exhibition quality prints.
But I gotta believe that Noise Ninja will always remain an important tool.
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abumac
Well-known
And what profiling do you use? I had profils for the Leica D2, but on the web from NN there arent any profils for R-D1.
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
No canned profiles.
I profile each image as I work on it.
I profile each image as I work on it.
wdenies
wdenies
Noise Ninja is great! I use it an essential tool in my workflow.
Profiles:
Either use autoprofiling or make them yourself (see the Noise Ninja site) , it is very easy.
Summary:
You need a color print from mosaic testchart avaiable on the site. Shoot it at different ISO settings, import the results : ready!
Wim
Profiles:
Either use autoprofiling or make them yourself (see the Noise Ninja site) , it is very easy.
Summary:
You need a color print from mosaic testchart avaiable on the site. Shoot it at different ISO settings, import the results : ready!
Wim
furcafe
Veteran
I made my own using the Noise Ninja color chart, but only for incandescent/halogen lighting (which happens to be 75% of when I use my R-D1).
abumac said:
crusius
Established
Does anybody know how do Noise Ninja to Neat Image compare? Since I use Bibble, I have Noise Ninja available (the one without the license, that is, I can only use Bibble's built-in Ninja R-D1 profile). But the results are always much worse than using Neat Image standalone. It may be a Bibble thing, I just wanted to know if anybody has more experience with this.
Best,
- Cesar
Best,
- Cesar
wdenies
wdenies
Ninja
Ninja
Cesar,
Could you publish some samples so we can compare.
I no experience with Neat, but wat I learned from reviews is that it is more "agressive" than Ninja.
Tip:
use Ninja as the very first step in the postprocessing (before sharpening, etc)
Wim
Ninja
Cesar,
Could you publish some samples so we can compare.
I no experience with Neat, but wat I learned from reviews is that it is more "agressive" than Ninja.
Tip:
use Ninja as the very first step in the postprocessing (before sharpening, etc)
Wim
crusius
Established
I'll try to post something when I have the time. Yes, I know the noise reduction should be the first thing, but since I only have access to the built-in Ninja in Bibble, I can't control that one. My impression is that Neat Image preserves more detail though. Maybe it is just that having the standalone Neat Image available gives me more control over the process than the handicapped controls for Ninja in Bibble.
- Cesar
- Cesar