RayPA
Ignore It (It'll go away)
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Some Resources
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How do you look at photos
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Remember: Please do not provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted.
This thread is now active, please follow the guidelines if you'd like to participate! Have Fun!
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Purpose
The primary purpose of this thread is to provide a forum where photographers can give and receive constructive criticism on one another's photographs. By setting up some basic guidelines we hope that this thread will provide a forum where the give and take of honest constructive criticism can help us become better photographers.
Guidelines/Ground Rules
The thread has very specific rules regarding participation. The one basic rule is that you cannot provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted. To post an image to this thread you must be a participant. Participation in this thread is limited. Here are the guidelines and ground rules for participation:
• Participation in this thread is limited to 5 photographers
• Participants join the thread by posting their intention. You can simply reply with your intent to join by posting something like: "I'm joining," "I'm in," or just state your name
• Joining is on a "first come, first served" basis. The first 5 to reply become the participants.
• Please, only join this thread if you are able post an image within 24 hours of joining.
• Once the thread has 5 participants, no other photographers can join or participate in the thread
• Once the thread is full of participants all photographers will upload their image(s)
• Please abide by any thematic requirement (e.g., landscape, portrait, etc.)
•The number of photos for each participant is limited to one
• Photographers attach photos as thumbnails (no inline images or links)
• Photos should be standard screen resolution (72~90) and the longest side of the image approximately 10 inches in length.
NOTE: New size limitations restrict attachment sizes to 300kb for jpegs. If you need help sizing your image for the web see THIS pdf.
• Photographers post their images supplying titles (if any) and other pertinent information (the amount of information should be minimal)
• Photographers can only comment on their own images and reply to comments only when everyone else in the thread has posted their comments on the image
• Every participant must comment on every photo (except their own—initially)
• Every participant must make at least two comments, one positive comment, and one constructive criticism.
• Once every photographer has commented then a free flowing discussion begins. It is at this point that every photographer can comment on their own work and reply to comments, ask questions, etc.
• The participants decide when the thread closes.
What's a Guest?
A guest is a participating member of the thread who does not need to post a picture. The guest is an exception to the guideline that states all participants must post an image. Guests provide criticism just as the other participants do. Guests are also encouraged to act as moderators, to encourage elaboration, to guide discussion and examine latent concepts brought about as a result of the discussion.
Note: Not all threads will have a guest. See the title/subject line for the '+Guest' designation.
Some Resources
If you'd like to participate in a critique thread and need some ideas about how to proceed with viewing images critically, you may find this thread helpful:
How do you look at photos
You can also provide feedback on critique threads here:
Critique Feedback Thread
If you need help sizing your image for the web see:
dcsang's pdf
Remember: Please do not provide criticism on an image or comment in a critique thread unless you also have an image posted.
This thread is now active, please follow the guidelines if you'd like to participate! Have Fun!
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jan normandale
Film is the other way
.......... In
kathytoth.ca
ktoth.ca
This sounds interesting, I'm in.....
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Ray, I'll post a photograph this evening
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I'm in! Blah blah (enough words so I can post)
emraphoto
Veteran
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in like flynn... translation: i'd like to participate...
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in like flynn... translation: i'd like to participate...
telenous
Well-known
I am in! I am in! I am in! (message too short)
emraphoto
Veteran
emraphoto
Veteran
sorry
sorry
more info i guess... little bit of a "different take" on urban landscape. went through the files of empty streets, abandoned buildings, architectural studies etc. but this one kept saying "pick me".
damn shame about all the people...
brussels, 2006. leica m6ttl and 35mm summicron.
sorry
more info i guess... little bit of a "different take" on urban landscape. went through the files of empty streets, abandoned buildings, architectural studies etc. but this one kept saying "pick me".
damn shame about all the people...
brussels, 2006. leica m6ttl and 35mm summicron.
kathytoth.ca
ktoth.ca
Here is submission. It smy most recent Toronto city scape.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Jeez, I'm looking at my shot on my work computer and it sux! Big time! I'm going to rescan and reload. Both home and work are LCD screens but there is a discrepancy in images and resolution here at work. Hang on til tonite okay?
btw Gabriel.. I'm loving yours w Bob looking down ;- )
btw Gabriel.. I'm loving yours w Bob looking down ;- )
jan normandale
Film is the other way
OK I rescanned and resized the image in post #11 and it's ready to go. I think we need a shot from Alkis and we are underway.
telenous
Well-known
jan normandale
Film is the other way
OK, we have our 5! Lets do some 'homework" over the weekend and start on Monday with our comments. Cheers!
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Here's my review of my peers work : "Urban Landscapes" # 77
Emraphoto.. well the topic was Urban landscape and it’s pretty wide so I guess this fits. What we have here is a streetscape and it’s urban, that’s good. The light is nice and warm so I can understand why you selected this shot for it’s ‘feel good’ nature. Motion is imparted and you have a lot of various subjects in and out of focus due to taking this shot with available light during low light conditions. The photograph makes me think more of a painting than a photograph. It conveys a feeling of a pleasant summer evening with people in the act of ‘urban things’
• The film temp is warm and it looks like a colour shift from the lighting on the street. If you wanted a more accurate colour rendition you might consider film for low light colour photography. I think this shot was one that you took because you had no choice for selection of film for the optimal purpose at the moment and the shot was there
• I might have framed this a little lower towards street level to get more of the frame filled with the ‘interesting stuff’ the second storey of the buildings is a nice touch but not a real necessity. It might be interesting to fill the frame with the illumination of the street and people in the bottom right frame corner.
• It’s difficult to tell if this is a soft lens or a focus issue. The image isn’t crisp so if you do shoot this you might consider a tripod, ‘bean bag’, even a fence railing or table top to steady your camera.
All in I’d say this is a warm painterly image and I like the colour better than BW here to impart that moment you have caught. What I’ve said is to move it towards a more photographic image. Obviously it’s your choice and I don’t know what you were trying to accomplish. That’s a flaw with this forum, but I’ll hear shortly what you were thinking so we’ll see then.
Telenous… lots of stark night illumination in this and it imparts a kind of ambivalent feeling for me one is “post apocalyptic” the other is a warm summer evening in a city where you can have fun.. how’s that for two polar opposites! I actually like this dynamic because it also could be both at the same time.
• The car headlights, the light on the wall and the clock tower, ferris wheel all illuminated make this attractive like light would attract anyone’s interest.
• The image of a vehicle leaving the area of interest creates a question of ‘is this venue boring’ or have they had ‘a good time’ and are now heading home.
• BW suits this image because it create a tension for the possibilities in this story
• You might use a slightly larger image for the critique.. small is okay but it’s tough to really get into details like a larger image, you’re not hiding anything on us here are you? (joke)
The ambiguity I find here will be explained away I’m sure. Like my comment to Emraphoto, the critique doesn’t let us know what you were up to until we’ve committed ourselves… So now tell me a totally different take. I’m not going to be surprised. (smile)
Kathytoth.ca, the topic is urban landscape and this is definitely one as far as I can see. Pretty stark! Nothing but concrete, brick, glass and steel. There is no question this is part of urban landscapes it’s definitely not pastoral.
• The strong graphic comp in the foreground and left frame dominate this one big time. The grid of the concrete pavers, and the curve of the ramp with the matching lines on the underside are powerful opposites , linear vs curve-linear
• The old versus new architecture in the top frame create a strong architectural contrast which is definitely part of the urban landscape also.
• I’m surprised at the lack of people in this shot, I think you need people somewhere to impart part of the “urban message” otherwise it is more architectural in nature.
The BW is really good here. Lots of detail in the darks and not over exposed. The image says what a urban environment is all about. I’m not sure how you were presenting this shot so I’ll wait to hear your intent.
Gabriel… I detect several things here. First this is definitely an urban landscape. Because I’ve followed you here at RFF for several years I also detect your usual keen eye, subtle humour and irony. This is quite a complex image and I’m sure you already know that. So I’ll take it apart as I see it and then come to some kind of photographic conclusion.
• There are strong geometric components to this shot. The cubed buildings and the horizontal connector between two buildings
• The roadway with guardrails running right through the image is a strong confirmation that this is an urban environment
• People sitting out on an open air patio ‘sunning’ is something of a urban classic image and here it is. The fences both ornamental, guard rail and security fence are all there
• Directional and advertising signs
• Ornamental streetlights
• The composition is dominated by the blue horizontal walkway and everything seems to work off it, buildings above it people below.
I like the shot. Once you get going and really look there is a lot happening here with colour, form and human interests. I think it works best as a colour shot. My favourite moment however is the Dylan signboard with a perspective that appears to show him looking over the blue pedestrian walkway and down onto the patio to observe the tables of people enjoying the moment. I like this one, it’s a goodie.
Emraphoto.. well the topic was Urban landscape and it’s pretty wide so I guess this fits. What we have here is a streetscape and it’s urban, that’s good. The light is nice and warm so I can understand why you selected this shot for it’s ‘feel good’ nature. Motion is imparted and you have a lot of various subjects in and out of focus due to taking this shot with available light during low light conditions. The photograph makes me think more of a painting than a photograph. It conveys a feeling of a pleasant summer evening with people in the act of ‘urban things’
• The film temp is warm and it looks like a colour shift from the lighting on the street. If you wanted a more accurate colour rendition you might consider film for low light colour photography. I think this shot was one that you took because you had no choice for selection of film for the optimal purpose at the moment and the shot was there
• I might have framed this a little lower towards street level to get more of the frame filled with the ‘interesting stuff’ the second storey of the buildings is a nice touch but not a real necessity. It might be interesting to fill the frame with the illumination of the street and people in the bottom right frame corner.
• It’s difficult to tell if this is a soft lens or a focus issue. The image isn’t crisp so if you do shoot this you might consider a tripod, ‘bean bag’, even a fence railing or table top to steady your camera.
All in I’d say this is a warm painterly image and I like the colour better than BW here to impart that moment you have caught. What I’ve said is to move it towards a more photographic image. Obviously it’s your choice and I don’t know what you were trying to accomplish. That’s a flaw with this forum, but I’ll hear shortly what you were thinking so we’ll see then.
Telenous… lots of stark night illumination in this and it imparts a kind of ambivalent feeling for me one is “post apocalyptic” the other is a warm summer evening in a city where you can have fun.. how’s that for two polar opposites! I actually like this dynamic because it also could be both at the same time.
• The car headlights, the light on the wall and the clock tower, ferris wheel all illuminated make this attractive like light would attract anyone’s interest.
• The image of a vehicle leaving the area of interest creates a question of ‘is this venue boring’ or have they had ‘a good time’ and are now heading home.
• BW suits this image because it create a tension for the possibilities in this story
• You might use a slightly larger image for the critique.. small is okay but it’s tough to really get into details like a larger image, you’re not hiding anything on us here are you? (joke)
The ambiguity I find here will be explained away I’m sure. Like my comment to Emraphoto, the critique doesn’t let us know what you were up to until we’ve committed ourselves… So now tell me a totally different take. I’m not going to be surprised. (smile)
Kathytoth.ca, the topic is urban landscape and this is definitely one as far as I can see. Pretty stark! Nothing but concrete, brick, glass and steel. There is no question this is part of urban landscapes it’s definitely not pastoral.
• The strong graphic comp in the foreground and left frame dominate this one big time. The grid of the concrete pavers, and the curve of the ramp with the matching lines on the underside are powerful opposites , linear vs curve-linear
• The old versus new architecture in the top frame create a strong architectural contrast which is definitely part of the urban landscape also.
• I’m surprised at the lack of people in this shot, I think you need people somewhere to impart part of the “urban message” otherwise it is more architectural in nature.
The BW is really good here. Lots of detail in the darks and not over exposed. The image says what a urban environment is all about. I’m not sure how you were presenting this shot so I’ll wait to hear your intent.
Gabriel… I detect several things here. First this is definitely an urban landscape. Because I’ve followed you here at RFF for several years I also detect your usual keen eye, subtle humour and irony. This is quite a complex image and I’m sure you already know that. So I’ll take it apart as I see it and then come to some kind of photographic conclusion.
• There are strong geometric components to this shot. The cubed buildings and the horizontal connector between two buildings
• The roadway with guardrails running right through the image is a strong confirmation that this is an urban environment
• People sitting out on an open air patio ‘sunning’ is something of a urban classic image and here it is. The fences both ornamental, guard rail and security fence are all there
• Directional and advertising signs
• Ornamental streetlights
• The composition is dominated by the blue horizontal walkway and everything seems to work off it, buildings above it people below.
I like the shot. Once you get going and really look there is a lot happening here with colour, form and human interests. I think it works best as a colour shot. My favourite moment however is the Dylan signboard with a perspective that appears to show him looking over the blue pedestrian walkway and down onto the patio to observe the tables of people enjoying the moment. I like this one, it’s a goodie.
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Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I think as an "urban landscape" this would fit in the "alternative" subcategory. My interpretation of "landscape" is...well...a landscape. An urban landscape would have to be an urban one, as opposed to a nature landscape.emraphoto said:
Having said that, it very evidently depicts a facet of urban life, capturing some sense of motion "frozen" (the blurred, walking man in the mid-bottom of the frame). I can see this is an urban scene. As such it is unfiltered, just as-is. I really don't have anything more to add, except possibly that without the people this photo would lack a key element of interest.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
A landscape, in one of its strictest interpretations, of the city. The composition is great, placing the empty space in the bottom half of the frame, while engaging the lines to form good symmetrical balance and imbalance: the clock tower with its shadow and sun-struck sides "appropriately" placed along the dividing vertical middle line of the frame, the ramp harmoniously drawing itself and creating space zones, that are geometrically (and tonally) placed.kathytoth.ca said:
Well done. I'm sure the scan of this does not do it justice. I wonder what a good wet print would look like.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I like this. It is a shame that the tones are very flat. But the poster of the woman gazing at the viewer, from and onto the landscape, the faceless, tinier humans below...perhaps working for "the man", adding delicious irony to the superior Geisha. In a modern world...jan normandale said:
It is a shame that the tones are very flat. The image is very strong.