dazedgonebye
Veteran
So, if you take pictures with a Cosina lens inside an old Soviet Sub, should there be some sort of FSU tie in?
I spent 6 years in the US Navy, 5 of that on a fast attack sub. It was interesting to see the other half.
Bessa R3A, 15mm Heliar, Tri-X at 1250 iso in Diafine.
All taken at f5.6 or f8
I spent 6 years in the US Navy, 5 of that on a fast attack sub. It was interesting to see the other half.
Bessa R3A, 15mm Heliar, Tri-X at 1250 iso in Diafine.
All taken at f5.6 or f8
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Great stuff! Where did you find this sub?
dazedgonebye
Veteran
The boat is on permanent exhibit along side the Queen Mary (now a hotel) in Long Beach California.
Leave it to California to exhibit a communist sub instead of an old US boat! ;-)
Leave it to California to exhibit a communist sub instead of an old US boat! ;-)
rxmd
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That looks like a Foxtrot class boat. I don't know when you were in the Navy but given your age, it must have been in the 1980s when these boats were already hopelessly outdated.
I also wondered who painted the stars on the sail and the torpedo tubes. Like this it looks a bit like the Disney version of a Soviet submarine.
A 15mm is probably just barely wide enough in there, but for 100% FSU goodness, next time take a Russar MR-2 on a Zorki.
Philipp
I also wondered who painted the stars on the sail and the torpedo tubes. Like this it looks a bit like the Disney version of a Soviet submarine.
A 15mm is probably just barely wide enough in there, but for 100% FSU goodness, next time take a Russar MR-2 on a Zorki.
Philipp
dazedgonebye
Veteran
It was a Whiskey class.
Yea, well it is in LA. You have to expect some embelishments.
I was in the Navy from 1980 to 1986. We never came across anything like this old boat. It was mostly Sierras and Alphas back then.
Yea, well it is in LA. You have to expect some embelishments.
I was in the Navy from 1980 to 1986. We never came across anything like this old boat. It was mostly Sierras and Alphas back then.
Krosya
Konicaze
Very cool! And I really like how CV 15mm lens did in there! If you have any more photos from there - please post!
ampguy
Veteran
A good (true) book on identifying the last U-boat off the NJ coastline a few years back is a book called "Shadow Divers". The divers who finally ID'd it used the example in a Chicago museum and photos extensively to know where to dive to look for ID hints in the deteriorated sub. Great read.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
15mm was ideal in those tight spaces.
Even at f5.6, focus was pretty much not an issue. Certainly I didn't have to worry about infinity in the tight confines of an old sub.
I may have a few more worth posting.
Even at f5.6, focus was pretty much not an issue. Certainly I didn't have to worry about infinity in the tight confines of an old sub.
I may have a few more worth posting.
FrankS
Registered User
I couldn't handle being in such a confined space under all that water. Subs and tunnels/caves. It's the stuff of nightmares for me!
dazedgonebye
Veteran
If you're the type to think about it, you're screwed. Most people naturally do not think about it. Some people learn not to think about it.
It really was a good way to serve in many ways. In cold war times, it was about as exciting (between long periods of boredom) as it gets without being in an actual shooting war...which would cross the line from exciting to terrifying.
Hard to believe it was only 6 years of my life...since it had such a lasting influence on who I am.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
The wardroom, navigation, and the engine room.
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ampguy
Veteran
an idea
an idea
Interesting. The Germans in WW2 considered them "iron caskets", most knew they weren't coming back.
I suppose if you could rig your lens up to the periscope you could get some nice whale and other ocean nature photos.
How often did you get to land in a port and get some fresh air?
an idea
Interesting. The Germans in WW2 considered them "iron caskets", most knew they weren't coming back.
I suppose if you could rig your lens up to the periscope you could get some nice whale and other ocean nature photos.
How often did you get to land in a port and get some fresh air?
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Things improved considerably after WWII, and having no one actually shoot at you made your odds a heck of a lot better too!
The food starts to run out as you approach 3 months...so sometime before that, we'd have to go in.
We'd be out for as little as a few days for training, or underwater till the food was gone, depending on the needs of the Navy.
The food starts to run out as you approach 3 months...so sometime before that, we'd have to go in.
We'd be out for as little as a few days for training, or underwater till the food was gone, depending on the needs of the Navy.
ampguy
Veteran
OK, gotcha
OK, gotcha
different decades. I guess it was not like Das Boot or U-571, that's good, nothing could be worse than life like in those times/movies, however exaggerated.
OK, gotcha
different decades. I guess it was not like Das Boot or U-571, that's good, nothing could be worse than life like in those times/movies, however exaggerated.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Das Boot is rather authentic. It helped that the author of the original novel had been a war correspondent on a boat.
U-571 was bad.
I had several ancestors on boats that didn't come back. German submarines had loss rates of about 91% for boats and almost 80% for crew. By 1945 there were 16-year-old sailors and 20-year-old captains. I have great respect for them. An uncle-in-law (is there such a word?) of mine is engineer on a Russian submarine. It's hard for the family, who were living in semi-secret port towns in the far north for years and had no idea where their husband and father was for months on end. On the boat itself it's still bad but there is no comparison. Not having a war helps, of course.
ampguy
Veteran
You would probably enjoy Shadow Divers very much
You would probably enjoy Shadow Divers very much
The divers went to great length to find the families of those buried in the U-boat they found, and in some cases went to Germany to deliver things and let the families know where their relatives lay.
You would probably enjoy Shadow Divers very much
The divers went to great length to find the families of those buried in the U-boat they found, and in some cases went to Germany to deliver things and let the families know where their relatives lay.
Das Boot is rather authentic. It helped that the author of the original novel had been a war correspondent on a boat.
U-571 was bad.
I had several ancestors on boats that didn't come back. German submarines had loss rates of about 91% for boats and almost 80% for crew. By 1945 there were 16-year-old sailors and 20-year-old captains. I have great respect for them. An uncle-in-law (is there such a word?) of mine is engineer on a Russian submarine. It's hard for the family, who were living in semi-secret port towns in the far north for years and had no idea where their husband and father was for months on end. On the boat itself it's still bad but there is no comparison. Not having a war helps, of course.
gavinlg
Veteran
Awesome stuff - I suspect I'd get claustrophobic in one of those for any long period of time, but I still think they're awesome.
Thanks
Thanks
Livesteamer
Well-known
Great photos and Thanks to all you sailers who man the subs. Another good book to come out recently is "Red Star Under the Baltic." The only WW2 Soviet sub book I have ever read. Very scary and very different from our boats. Joe
